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My wife is getting fibre BB installed in her house in Germany. The provider wanted to rent us the router instead of giving free (as in UK) so we said no, we would buy our own. I have an old Openreach box from when routers didn't handle fibre inputs directly - the box went between wall socket and router and plugged into the WAN socket of the router.
Could I use the same box in Germany - ie do they have the same fibre BB system as us, or is it different in some way that means we have to buy a German router?
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I think the Openreach box was a VDSL modem, which needed to connect to a router for all the other functions such as wifi
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After some googling; we are getting O2 BB and it appears Germany has deployed VDSL2 so the modem needs to use that - which my old OR VDSL modem probably doesn't. I will look up the model this evening.
Sounds like I will probably have to buy a German VDSL router just to be sure it all works properly
Edited by rockdoctor (Tue 26-Mar-19 16:51:28)
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Best to find one that also does VDSL2 Profile 35b the super vectoring version as lots of the VDSL2 in Germany is based on that, i.e. faster than UK VDSL2
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The OR modem work with VDSL2 but there are several different profiles . I don't know if either the ECI or Hauwei support them all.
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A Zyxel 3925-B10B only goes up as far as profile 17a (and US0, whatever that is) so that won't help you but at least you can tick them off any list.
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You need to ascertain if it is delivered over POTS (basic copper two wire) or an ISDN line. Both have been used in Germany.
And a Router will not worry about the actual connection, whereas a Modem or Hub (which will have an inbuiilt modem) will be the interface to the line.
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When I read the OP�s question I had a vague recollection of ADSL over ISDN lines in Germany, so is it still a product, and are they likely to have a VDSL variant ?
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I think isdn is now dead in Germany, as it will here in a few years
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2018 was a target date for DT, although I have not seen any confirmation that it was achieved. So there is a possibility that some pockets still exist and other service providers may still have it in place.
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I think isdn is now dead in Germany, as it will here in a few years Assuming its still ISDN2 in UK (appreciated ISDN30 is a totally different product normally used for PABX connections via a BNC) I am amazed there is still any need for it considering the 2 bearers and 1 delta channel only provides 128K of bandwidth at best.
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There�s plenty still out there, fitted 6 brand new channels only a couple of weeks ago.
It�s still used rather a lot by the military I�m told
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Also still used a lot for broadcast media - installed some a few months ago,
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There�s plenty still out there, fitted 6 brand new channels only a couple of weeks ago.
It�s still used rather a lot by the military I�m told
Sure-but I find it�s mostly (maybe always?) used for voice services in the UK nowadays. It�s poor value for money as a broadband product and I wonder if BT Wholesale even still offer an Internet service over ISDN2 anyway.
Edited by deleted (Fri 29-Mar-19 17:26:48)
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God yes, it�s been voice only for donkeys years, I think the last �real� users of it were hi-way customers ...
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OP here again. Thanks for the contributions. I have dug out the OR modem - it is a Huawei HG612 3B, which I believe is a VDSL2 modem.
The village in Germany is on a new FTTC install, with the cabinet very close to our house. We should get a very large fraction of the 50/10 product we have paid for.
As far as I can tell, I should be able to plug the the modem straight into the new VDSL2 faceplate, then connect it to my network of Hub 5 routers. They are currently all in AP mode, hanging off a Netgear Trek PR2000 (recommended to me on here) which connects to the neighbours' wifi (we pay them). I will disconnect the Trek and turn the router of one Hub 5 back on and set it up with the login details and settings for the new service.
After that, Robert wird mein Onkel sein!
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I see you are related to the Sherunkle clan ...
Make sure te modem is unlocked and you can access the internal menu and setting then you will have a chance of some diagnostics.
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