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Standard User Fumbledore
(newbie) Mon 30-Sep-19 17:33:59
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Is it possible to get a Static IP address from BT on their home FTTP 300Mbs service?

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Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 30-Sep-19 17:55:59
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Is it possible to get a Static IP address from BT on their home FTTP 300Mbs service?


Nope.
They don't offer a static IP option at all to residential customers, not even available as a paid for add-on.
Standard User bedrock
(member) Mon 30-Sep-19 18:12:52
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Does 3 months uptime count as static? wink

And that router reboot was only due to firmware upgrade

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Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 30-Sep-19 23:29:31
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Does 3 months uptime count as static? wink


No. Not in the slightest.

I'd describe it as "sticky" at best.

It's no reassurance to someone who requires a static IP that it might not change for a while, especially if that change breaks things.
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Tue 01-Oct-19 03:24:31
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Does 3 months uptime count as static? wink

And that router reboot was only due to firmware upgrade

Not really LOL

I know the last several blocks of IPv6 addresses I have been given are flagged as Static IP's, sadly these change so fast LOL

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Standard User candlerb
(experienced) Tue 01-Oct-19 08:24:51
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Is it possible to get a Static IP address from BT on their home FTTP 300Mbs service?


The answers you've received are "no", but you still have some other options.

You could buy the AAISP L2TP service for £10/month. Although there are traffic speed and volume limitations, you could use the AAISP address for incoming access to your servers, while outbound uses your native dynamic IPs. You might need to do a bit of funky policy routing to get the return traffic sent the right way.

You could take a cloud VPC on a static IP for £5-£10 per month, run a tunnel from your home network to it (e.g. Wireguard or OpenVPN), and reverse port forward your incoming traffic.

If you only want static IPv6 then you could use the tunnelbroker.net service from Hurricane Electric (for free). It's a bit cheeky to use them even though you already have native IPv6. Again, I'd only use the HE addresses for inbound connections.

Or you could wait until the end of your contract and move to Zen, or one of various business-focussed ISPs like Cerberus, Aquiss etc. Cerberus include one static IPv4, and extra ones are £1/month.
Standard User adrenalize_
(regular) Tue 01-Oct-19 08:51:18
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Or maybe use Dynamic DNS?
I use a free one and can then use the domain name for things like OpenVPN and the Thinkbroadband BQM
Standard User andynormancx
(member) Tue 01-Oct-19 08:54:02
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You could buy the AAISP L2TP service for £10/month. Although there are traffic speed and volume limitations, you could use the AAISP address for incoming access to your servers, while outbound uses your native dynamic IPs. You might need to do a bit of funky policy routing to get the return traffic sent the right way.


I did that for a bit, then realised for less money I could also get an non-UK IP address, so I went with:

In reply to a post by candlerb:
You could take a cloud VPC on a static IP for £5-£10 per month, run a tunnel from your home network to it (e.g. Wireguard or OpenVPN), and reverse port forward your incoming traffic.


I have a $5 Linode virtual machine (I also use Linode for some other VMs).

OpenVPN can be kind if a pain to setup, I used this handy script to make it extremely painless to get working:

https://github.com/Nyr/openvpn-install

Be aware though if you use that script that it makes choices that make it a tiny bit less secure than it could otherwise be (generating all the certs, including CA, on the the OpenVPN server itself being the main issue).
Standard User andynormancx
(member) Tue 01-Oct-19 08:56:29
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When you need static IP, you tend to really need it though.

Things like connecting to work VPNs/servers. Where access is sometimes whitelisted by IP address. Dynamic DNS can't help you with that unfortunately.
Standard User bedrock
(member) Tue 01-Oct-19 11:20:27
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I wouldn't even describe as sticky, it was said tongue in cheek, when I had a DSL service, I was lucky to go 24hrs without a disconnect and reconnect. However with my FTTP service on the other hand, I've only had disconnect/reconnect events when I've initiated them.

I obvisuoly do have a dynamic IP address because thats all BT offer, however with dynamic DNS, I personally dont have a need for fully static.

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Standard User jabuzzard
(committed) Tue 01-Oct-19 11:46:39
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However PlusNet which is owned by BT do for a one off £5 charge.
Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 01-Oct-19 11:48:28
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However PlusNet which is owned by BT do for a one off £5 charge.


Which is useless info to the OP who is on FTTP, which Plusnet don't even sell.
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 01-Oct-19 11:53:12
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However PlusNet which is owned by BT do for a one off £5 charge.


If you actually want a static ip, fttp, and bt sports - there is no isp that offers this crazy
Standard User Jake4
(learned) Tue 01-Oct-19 12:08:26
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BT Home & Business may provide bt sports as an addon.
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 01-Oct-19 12:27:33
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Unless i'm mistaken - bts was not available for business accounts.
Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 01-Oct-19 12:46:44
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Unless i'm mistaken - bts was not available for business accounts.


https://btbusiness.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a...
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 01-Oct-19 13:53:43
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I have FTTP + Static IP + own RevDNS from PlusNet so technically it was possible smile Limited to FTTP trial users frown
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 01-Oct-19 14:11:44
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Thank you smile
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 01-Oct-19 14:14:27
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In reply to a post by Woocush:
I have FTTP + Static IP + own RevDNS from PlusNet so technically it was possible smile Limited to FTTP trial users frown


I still don't get the 7 year old pn fttp trial .. Actually i do get the purpose of it but not the 7 years and then when fttp becomes a reality to erm close it with no commercial product
Standard User candlerb
(experienced) Tue 01-Oct-19 14:49:19
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I guess the trial was to allow management to measure how expensive it is to provision and support - and since it currently only benefits a minority of the customer base, they decided it doesn't make sense for an ultra-low-margin business.
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 01-Oct-19 16:22:48
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I guess the trial was to allow management to measure how expensive it is to provision and support


Yup that bit was obvious. The weird thing was that they closed the trial and then started to expand whom could give support on that part of the forum.

In reply to a post by candlerb:
and since it currently only benefits a minority of the customer base, they decided it doesn't make sense for an ultra-low-margin business.


That is arguably correct; up and until they closed the trial. Very shortly afterwards, we saw OR change its stance on fttp.

Edited by Taras (Tue 01-Oct-19 16:25:15)

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