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I'm about to move to save costs.
I'm told that the connection and speeds i receive won't change as its only a cosmetic change in that Aquiss will be looking after my openreach connection instead of BT. Aquiss tell me that the circuit will be routed via their network - what is meant by this, will affect my current ping rates etc ??
I'm aware that the service may differ in terms of support etc
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So your connection will be routed to Aquiss� home gateway rather than your previous service providers one.
There is a fair chance that pretty much all of the route will remain unchanged, so you shouldn�t see any huge difference. Mind you, if you do, you�ll be 99% sure what the cause is.
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Your ping times once you move to Aquiss will almost certainly change, whether +/- or by how much, you won't know until you've migrated. But any difference will be small, nothing to be concerned over.
This is what I'm getting to 8.8.8.8 on 3 different FTTP lines:
BT >> 17ms
FluidOne >> 19ms
Trunk >> 25 ms 
Make of that what you will 
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Great, I'm going to give it a go - current ping is between 6ms -18ms. I'm saving over £20 so i need to do something.
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Understood, but have you called BT to ask if they can match or better Aquiss' pricing? Unlike some smaller CPs, BT can offer substantial discounts over the phone in exchange for a 12+ month commitment.
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This is what I'm getting to 8.8.8.8 on 3 different FTTP lines:
BT >> 17ms
FluidOne >> 19ms
Trunk >> 25 ms
Make of that what you will With a Gigaclear connection I get:
Ping statistics for 8.8.8.8:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 3ms, Maximum = 3ms, Average = 3ms
Michael Chare
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Where you live in the country makes the biggest difference. Highest ping times will be in Scotland as the traffic has to travel down to (usually) London or Manchester, depending on what you're pinging of course.
Speed of light in fibre is about 2/3 c, i.e. 200km per millisecond; and it's a round trip so expect a millisecond for every 100km. That's not the only source of delay, but it's one you can't improve on.
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You would probably be better off going with TalkTalk directly. Same thing but cutting out two middle men = cheaper.
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Are they doing Openreach FTTP now then ?
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So where is the Google equipment that is responding to the pings?
Michael Chare
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So where is the Google equipment that is responding to the pings?
8.8.8.8 is an "anycast" address: in other words, there are lots of 8.8.8.8 clusters around the world, and your traffic gets routed to the nearest one.
Checking the looking glass of a major ISP, I see they pick up this route in London (LINX and LoNAP) but not in IXManchester, IXLeeds or IXScotland.
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Theres a scottish one? i've never been routed through there in my life lol.
Anyway to ping it?
Edited by epyon (Sun 12-Jan-20 14:59:11)
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Theres a scottish one? i've never been routed through there in my life lol.
Anyway to ping it?
You can't ping an IXP: they are a layer 2 fabric. But you can see a list of members here:
https://portal.linx.net/members/list-ip-asn?columns=...
You'll only get routed through it if your ISP is a member, *and* so is the network you're trying to ping (or their ISP), *and* they have a peering agreement. I do see several major content providers there though (e.g. Akamai, Cloudflare, BBC)
Edited by candlerb (Sun 12-Jan-20 15:59:41)
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I believe that Aquiss FTTP prices are with no copper circuit line rental. Only the fibre connection. If this is the case are you OK with giving up your copper circuit (losing the number or migrating the number to a VOIP provider) ?
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Don't understand what you mean by middle men.... talk-talk don't offer FTTP ? If they did it would be through openreach network meaning same thing in the end ?
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Hi
Yes, moving my telephone number to yay.com for £19.99 (one off fee) and then £4.99 a month for voip which is cheaper than line rental
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You would probably be better off going with TalkTalk directly. Same thing but cutting out two middle men = cheaper.
Don't understand what you mean by middle men.... talk-talk don't offer FTTP ? If they did it would be through openreach network meaning same thing in the end ?
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@partial was the only one to mention TalkTalk, and could have accidentally replied to the wrong thread. It's certainly nothing to do with BT versus Aquiss on Openreach FTTP, which is the subject of this thread.
As you said, TalkTalk don't yet offer any access via Openreach FTTP. TalkTalk do have a very small amount of non-Openreach fibre in a few places, primarily York.
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