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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 07-Jul-20 13:03:16
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FTTP Coming Soon


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Hi All,
Over the past couple of weeks we have had open reach contractors on our street doing what looked like pulling cables and when I now go on the open reach site it says that FTTP is coming to my street soon.

Whats odd is my area isn't on any of the lists I've seen to be included in their roll out, can anyone advise where I should be looking?

Also roughy from the point of them cabling the street roughly how long is it until they commission the service?

Just trying to temper my excitement of not fighting with the family on who gets to stream at a given time smile
Thanks
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 07-Jul-20 15:54:02
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Could be a month or six months or more

Not all the deployments are on the lists, new build properties from the last 2 decades are commonly not on any announced lists, i.e. random estates appearing with FTTP all over

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Standard User BuckleZ
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 07-Jul-20 19:15:59
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Coming soon means subject to the project manager checking.


My address was coming soon, but the project manger found the cables are all buried it now says not coming.


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Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 07-Jul-20 19:26:41
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In reply to a post by BuckleZ:
Coming soon means subject to the project manager checking.


It does not.

The OpenReach checker only gives 3 possible outcomes on an FTTP check.

No plans for FTTP.
FTTP Coming Soon.
FTTP is available to order.

FTTP coming soon simply means it's planned but not yet available to order.
It can be anywhere between just announced and zero work done all the way through to work is complete but waiting for audit.

It has no specific meaning regarding project managers or anything else.
Standard User BuckleZ
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 07-Jul-20 19:27:17
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Not true my address was coming soon.

Now it's not planned, this was due to armoured leads - confirmed by Openreach.

Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 07-Jul-20 19:28:29
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What part of what you said didn't I cover?

It means nothing but it is planned. Plans can and do change.

The message has nothing to do with project managers or what stage the build is at.

I did say...

It can be anywhere between just announced and zero work done all the way through to work is complete but waiting for audit

Edited by j0hn83 (Tue 07-Jul-20 19:29:42)

Standard User BuckleZ
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 07-Jul-20 19:34:32
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It's simple

MINE SAID IT WAS COMING SOON.

Openreach then said it's not feasible due to armoured leads.

The check now says not planned.

Simple really - FTTP planned is not 100% you're getting it.

Thanks

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(staff) Tue 07-Jul-20 19:37:03
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They could say 'coming soon but in a small number of cases we sometimes discover things that may mean the plans have to change, and therefore it is possible for some people that you may drop back to no plans'

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Standard User BuckleZ
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 07-Jul-20 19:37:29
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
They could say 'coming soon but in a small number of cases we sometimes discover things that may mean the plans have to change, and therefore it is possible for some people that you may drop back to no plans'


Yeah 100%

Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 07-Jul-20 19:41:30
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It's simple

MINE SAID IT WAS COMING SOON.

Openreach then said it's not feasible due to armoured leads.

The check now says not planned.

Simple really - FTTP planned is not 100% you're getting it.

Thanks


I never said it was 100% your getting it

FTTP Coming soon simply means it's planned, whether work has started or not.
Plans change and sometimes it will revert back to no plans.


You said some nonsense about it meaning something to do with a project manager.
It doesn't.

No idea why you had to argue that correction. Have at it.
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 07-Jul-20 20:14:12
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It does not.

The OpenReach checker only gives 3 possible outcomes on an FTTP check.

No plans for FTTP.
FTTP Coming Soon.
FTTP is available to order.

FTTP coming soon simply means it's planned but not yet available to order.
It can be anywhere between just announced and zero work done all the way through to work is complete but waiting for audit.

It has no specific meaning regarding project managers or anything else.


Wrong! Not always! I seen FTTP Coming Soon then ten months later it changed to No plans for FTTP.

It up to project manager check not Openreach decision.

PN FTTC 80/20 since 2014
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 07-Jul-20 21:05:28
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Who is this project manage making the decision if they are not part of Openreach?

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Standard User fredfox
(experienced) Tue 07-Jul-20 21:11:21
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Sounds like the all seeing, all powerful Oz

Pipex
Nildram
UKFSN
Be *
Xilo / Uno
Now -> Zen and BT

Fibre is here ! FTTP smile
Standard User gary333
(committed) Tue 07-Jul-20 21:19:07
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Project managers are simply people who invite others in the company to lots of meetings, send many emails, ask for lots of "updates" and produce tons of word documents and occasionally a power point. They always have a Ganntt chart available to show you they have a plan and are busy.

Project managers are admin. Bean counters and a couple of "influential people" decide what go's, everyone else just thinks they get a say.

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Standard User BuckleZ
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 07-Jul-20 21:19:47
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Planned covers a wide area, it's down to the build which is co-ordinated when they get on-site - for a small amount of streets/areas it's found to be not feasible

Enough said.

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Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 07-Jul-20 21:20:24
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In English please?

It means FTTP is planned. Full stop.

Nobody in this thread said it means it is coming 100%

Plans can and do change.

That can be because of subsidised funding running out, issues discovered during survey, issues discovered during the build, increased costs, mistakes made during the initial assessment or even the project manager cancelling it, if that makes you feel better.

The coming soon message is not anything to do with project bl**dy managers, even if they end up being the 1 who makes a decision to cancel plans.

It's a generic message, nothing more, nothing less.

Edited by j0hn83 (Tue 07-Jul-20 21:21:14)

Standard User BuckleZ
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 07-Jul-20 21:21:53
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Yawn

Standard User deleted
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For what it is mine says FTTP not available and no plans, but Openreach have built the network in my village and I hope to be able to place an order in the coming weeks
Standard User BuckleZ
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 07-Jul-20 21:26:17
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https://ibb.co/vV8bcBW

Thats why you shouldn't get your hopes up

Standard User Fastman3
(learned) Tue 07-Jul-20 21:26:23
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buckel

that because your premises is hard and cannot be done without significant cost - depending where you were live and whether it was a commercial or BDUK area - it would have been outside of the premises cap

notsure what the project manager comment in reference to
Standard User BuckleZ
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 07-Jul-20 21:28:53
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Just a word in, I'm 100% happy with my Virgin - It's a top class service. I was only checking in on work being done around my area.

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