Help regarding new fibre connection.

Any help or advice appreciated - have tried with BT and gotten nowhere.
Live 1.5 miles away from fibre enabled cabinet - told too far for FTTC.
Stuck on ADSL with speeds of 2-3Mb and no plans for any upgrade or improvement.
Have tried USO route told 4G is only solution and tried BT EE 4G.
Gave it a try for a month - connection kept dropping out and speed generally around 7Mb.
I think the mast is relatively over capacity as the signal strength was fine solid 3 bars on the EE modem. Not far from mast and good line of sight so should have worked but didn't. Also didn't allow me to connect to secure server to access work emails at home.
Have letter from BT basically saying I have no options and can appeal to ombudsman if I wish.
Have tried community partnership and quoted roughly £25k per household for FTTP. We asked for a quote for FTTC with a new cabinet and awaiting to see if they will give us a price for this - multiple other households in similar situation.
Noticed a lineman working on the pole outside my house a few weeks ago.

https://postimg.cc/XGLp9KcL

Does this pole have fibre?
Apologies for photo can take more if required.
If this does have fibre why were we quoted over £25k for a distance of roughly 100m from pole to house?
If anyone can clarify re pole appreciated or any routes or advice I can try.
Many thanks in advance.

No, that pole doesn’t have any fibre on it.

Fair enough - thanks for the quick reply - any other options that you know of?

A way to notice fibre cable is that they normally have a yellow line / stripe along the cable.

Like the cables >> shown << here, not too sure if they have changed the cables since ours was installed.

Paul

yeah ours has the yellow stripe.

In reply to a post by Taras:

yeah ours has the yellow stripe.

And ours.

1.5miles in NOT too far for FTTC. It may well be that FTTC will not offer a noticeable improvement over what you have.

I was involved in an upgrade on a line at just under 3km - almost 2 miles and that is currently getting FTTC at 3Mbps although the checker estimates 1.9 max but also shows the 3.09 max observed.

the only option for CFP is now FTTP

tso the question how many premises did you ask for on your CFP i the price for 4 might be very different for the price of say 30 or 40 - how many did you actually ask for

Please note you will have got what you asked for

What area are you = post code.?

Apologies for late replies - just back from work:

Re MHC - tried this with BT they have refused to connect to FTTC as they say the speed will be less than 10Mb and will not proceed. It appears I don't have any choice in the matter - this was previously suggested by one of the BT engineers who assessed our line a few years ago.

Re Fastman3 - quote was for 26 premises and came to £585445 a staggeringly large figure. Its fair to say no one will pay this.

Re Aptman - area is BT51 5XP.

In reply to a post by bl1973:

Apologies for late replies - just back from work:

Re MHC - tried this with BT they have refused to connect to FTTC as they say the speed will be less than 10Mb and will not proceed.

Yes BT (and a couple other ISP's) won't provide FTTC below certain speeds.
This will probably be to keep their advertised average speeds higher.

You're not limited to using BT though. FTTC can sometimes work well at longer distances, particularly on state funded cabinets with Vectoring enabled.

What are your VDSL estimates on the Broadband Availability Checker ?

Edited by j0hn83 (Tue 04-Aug-20 21:50:21)

Is this any help.

https://gigabitvoucher.culture.gov.uk/#suppliers

In reply to a post by bl1973:

Fair enough - thanks for the quick reply - any other options that you know of?

You're quite rural and spread apart judging by a quick postcode search on google maps. Any type of cabled solution is going to be expensive per premises, based on the relatively large civils costs and low premises density.

What is terrain like?A (shared) leased line and distributed wireless solution may be an option worth investigating.

Re: j0hn83-
No mention of VDSL on this checker - only ADSLMax and ADSL2+.

Re: APTMAN-
This would still leave over £20k per household - the grant is minimal.

Re: Pheasant-
The ground is flat no major developments.

Looks like my broadband speed will remain at 2Mb via fixed line. Guess I will have to look into 5G once it arrives. What is really annoying is that BT are spending large sums in the adjacent town 1.5 miles away changing FTTC to FTTP.
It's really hard to see the justification for this.....

The justification is a potential customer base that will generate returns on the investment, the economics just don't work for low population densities.

assume this rural northern ireland

i would suggest that their is either a signicant amount of direct in ground between cab and you or betwen cab an the premises you have asked for which is skewing the costs on this are the premises close together are are they dispersley spread and are they all off the same cabinet and exchange

I wouldn't expect too much from 5G in a rural area. The high speeds with 5G are in dense areas using high frequencies - those frequencies don't have much range, so lower frequencies will be used in rural areas which will have correspondingly lower bandwidth.

Further up Blacklock road ( Past McIntosh BS) has FTTP already so not far away. NI actually has a really good penetration of FTTP so you need to talk to whoever in the Assembly is responsible for the subsidy scheme

Hi Kit-Kat,

I've spoken to local representatives and we are waiting on news regarding Project Stratum. Our location is in the database but there appear to be a lot of locations there including those that already have FTTC that I am aware of.
I have no idea who I could speak to about this as the information as always is limited and protected - any ideas?

bl1973

Cannot help with who to talk to but start wit your local Councillor and Assembly member they should be able to direct you better.