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Standard User ft247
(newbie) Fri 08-Jan-21 14:21:41
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Re: Handover exchanges


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Are there new build properties in the Monument exchange area with fttp only?


Yes - EC3R 6AL.
Standard User ft247
(newbie) Fri 08-Jan-21 14:37:21
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Re: Handover exchanges


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My exchange (ESDAL) is a Handover exchange.
It has very little FTTP at present. It's almost exclusively new builds and retro new build work.
This means it isn't worth it for some backhaul providers to buy a 10Gb GEA cablelink yet.


This is what I thought, the market is likely to be BTw heavy until areas gain critical mass. I presume what Vodafone are doing with Birmingham/Bristol/Liverpool is using their own network to the handover point, which is the reason for the limited footprint.

Thanks for clearing up how BTw works, I wasn't sure.
Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 08-Jan-21 14:40:39
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Re: Handover exchanges


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Vodafone are a little different.

They also sell Gigafast FTTP over the CityFibre network.
They have taken the deliberate decision to only sell OpenReach FTTP in specific areas, areas where CityFibre FTTP isn't available.


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Standard User kitcat
(experienced) Fri 08-Jan-21 14:51:20
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Re: Handover exchanges


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ft247

Some of the exchanges you list have already had the buildings closed and ALL equipment is in the new exchange ( Some for 15 years plus!)

Faraday has Fleet and Wood Street in already. ( Plus at least one other)

Poplar has Canary Wharf in it.

S Kensington has Chelsea and at least 2 others.

Earls Court I think went into West Ken.

Etc.

There is a limit on how many buildings BT can close as most are not owned by it but by Trillium. They can only 'hand back' a set value within each period as was set when they did the Sale and Leaseback agreement years ago. So they would still have to pay rent even if they were not using, subject of course to if Trillium got a better offer! which is very possible in Central London but unlikely outside the major cities.
Standard User dect
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 08-Jan-21 15:01:33
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Faraday has Fleet and Wood Street in already. ( Plus at least one other)
Possibly Moorgate as well?
Standard User witchunt
(experienced) Fri 08-Jan-21 15:24:52
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If they start forcing people out the business on mass there may be a lot of info suddenly made available. I guess they are prepared for that.
Standard User t_r_davies
(newbie) Fri 08-Jan-21 16:42:01
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Re: Handover exchanges


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My exchange (ESDAL) is a Handover exchange.


Been lurking here for many years and always thought you're a very knowledgeable chap j0hn83. It now turns out you're really close to me, I'm ESPCK just a few miles away to the west smile
Standard User _Icaras_
(newbie) Fri 08-Jan-21 17:19:28
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Yes but very much worth it to hand back parts or all of buildings. Whether they are owned or not.

As you say most of BT’s buildings are not owned by BT.

Icaras
Standard User heathrow
(newbie) Fri 08-Jan-21 18:27:21
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Thanks. That works really well.

New builds to my exchange, Colindale, show Colindale as the exchange. Not a surprise.

Down in Surrey, new builds to Horley show Crawley as the exchange - also not a surprise.

All searches though raise this:

ONT exists with active service. No spare ports are available. Network is at capacity so a new ONT cannot be ordered.



Looks as if fibre is wildly popular.
Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 08-Jan-21 22:30:41
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In reply to a post by t_r_davies:
In reply to a post by j0hn83:
My exchange (ESDAL) is a Handover exchange.


Been lurking here for many years and always thought you're a very knowledgeable chap j0hn83. It now turns out you're really close to me, I'm ESPCK just a few miles away to the west smile


Hello from the Dalkeith area!

Lots of #penisnow up your way. It's pretty deep here.

Edited by j0hn83 (Fri 08-Jan-21 22:33:53)

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