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Standard User threelegs
(member) Wed 03-Mar-21 19:44:17
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talk talk stole number


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hi all. asking on behalf of my neighbour who is moving to another house within the same exchange area and hoped to keep her number, which she has had for 20 odd years and uses for her business but the person who is buying her house has been in touch with talk talk and has "stolen " the old number and now TT wont release it back to the original customer.
this means my neighbour will now have to have new business cards etc printed and will risk her long standing customers going elsewhere if they cant get through on the old number.
this doesnt seem right to me. can the forumites suggest a remedy?

forgot to add this phone line is also her BB

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 03-Mar-21 20:45:58
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Re: talk talk stole number


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The simple answer is that the directory number doesn’t ‘belong’ to neighbour.

Standard User threelegs
(member) Wed 03-Mar-21 20:49:44
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Re: talk talk stole number


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but she didnt authorise TT to take it and give it to the new owner


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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Wed 03-Mar-21 21:04:19
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Re: talk talk stole number


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Has she moved? Has she TT she is cancelling or just moving.

And also a solicitors letter to the purchasers solicitor to confirm "that for avoidance of doubt, the sale contract does not include the transfer of any rights to phone or broadband".

Then also inform TT that she is planning to transfer her service and contract to the new property on a specific date.


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Standard User Michael_Chare
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 03-Mar-21 21:53:59
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If she has moved she could ask the new owner if they would be kind enough to let her keep the number.

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Standard User dect
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 03-Mar-21 22:13:34
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Re: talk talk stole number


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I note you say moving, so it hasn't happened yet? have they exchanged contracts yet? if not then its still her number and she can try one or both of the following

1) Do a VOIP transfer to say Sipgate (knowing that it would cease the line/broadband)
2) Speaking to her conveyancing solicitor to see what they can do from their side if the first option fails.

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Standard User dect
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 03-Mar-21 22:29:13
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Re: talk talk stole number


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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
The simple answer is that the directory number doesn’t ‘belong’ to neighbour.
A little harsh considering OP was looking for ways to help their neighbour.

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Wed 03-Mar-21 22:58:09
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Don't forget there are differing rules for residential and business. The OP mentioned business cards, stationary &c, so that suggest a business and as such there is some protection.


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Standard User Pheasant
(experienced) Wed 03-Mar-21 23:09:56
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Re: talk talk stole number


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In reply to a post by threelegs:
but she didnt authorise TT to take it and give it to the new owner

None of this makes much sense - why would the new owner want the previous owners actual landline number - a number associated with what presumably is associated with a 20+ year old business at that...?

Again TT can't just give away the number, unless of course the neighbour has cancelled the service or it was novated to the purchaser (perhaps by mistake)

Why doesn't the neighbour call up the purchaser (or get their conveyancing solicitor to get in touch with the other side) to clarify that the number isn't part of the deal and neighbour wants to retain it?

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Standard User candlerb
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 04-Mar-21 09:11:02
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This might simply be a lack of procedure.

Some years ago, I knew someone who worked for Talktalk - quite senior actually. Obviously his phone and broadband was on Talktalk. He was moving house within the same exchange area, and for various reasons needed to keep his old phone number.

However, Talktalk simply did not have a business process to enable this. Presumably, house moves within same exchange area were not common enough to warrant the development cost. If he had moved house while still on Talktalk, he would have lost his old number and got a new one allocated.

The end result? He had to transfer his line to BT first, move to the new house (taking number with him), wait 12 months, and then transfer back to Talktalk.

He was lucky enough to have researched and planned all this before the move. If the OP's move has already taken place, it's probably too late to recover the number now.
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