OR sub-cons

Has anyone come across Morrisions doing FTTP installs for OR?

They turned up to do my neighbour and claimed "I need help" before disappearing and not returning. ANother case of "too hard so I'll get rid of it!"

Yep. Doubtless some old OR lag will be prodded into sorting it out.

They’re doing the duct unblocking and surveying work near me, our town is getting FTTP this year.

They’re also fitting CBT’s and associated equipment on poles too.

I’ve not seen many end customer connections so no idea if they’re also doing that here.

Almost certainly.

Yes, there is a carrier pole with 50 m spans betweenpoles and to house but everything else should be simple.

In reply to a post by Kr1s69:

They’re doing the duct unblocking and surveying work near me, our town is getting FTTP this year.

They’re also fitting CBT’s and associated equipment on poles too.

Morrisons Telecoms have been a tier 1 contractor for Openreach for some time and were awarded parts of the UK for the deployment of FTTP infrastructure. I hadn't heard of them getting their hands dirty before as they normally use sub contracts to do the actual work (these sub-contractors are typically referred to as Openreach tier 2 contractors). Maybe they are taking a different approach to it now but I had heard good things about some of their sub contractors.

They may well be subcontractors as the vans aren’t branded. The “working on behalf of openreach’ signs on the safety barriers was what I was going off as they mention Morrisons.

We’ve also got avonline networks installing in the area too on behalf of Nexfibre. It’s odd as they are part of the same group as Morrisons and they’re all working on competing contracts.

But for subbies a trench is a trench it doesn't matter whose cable goes in it afterwards.

Actually, it does. There are different deppths, distance from kerb, requirement for warnng tapes, or fibreglass boards ... SO, they will be told the specifics.

Pedant! But they are digging a trench for fibre so know how deep etc and it doesn't matter to them after that whether OR /ccity fibre virgin etc then put their cable in it

And Virgin have their ducts 50-100 mm before finished surface. BT & OR put theirsat a more sensible 350 or 600 minimum.

In reply to a post by MHC:

.......................... OR put theirsat a more sensible 350 or 600 minimum.

OP quotes neighbour, not Highway or Footway, 250mm

Edited by adamgrafton (Sat 21-Oct-23 09:29:07)

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And Virgin have their ducts 50-100 mm before finished surface.

Doesn't that depend on which of the original cable Co's did the build? e.g. I know NYNEX in Sussex, and NTL in Surrey were quite different in the construction. (back in the 1991 to 1993 days).

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In reply to a post by MHC:

.......................... OR put theirsat a more sensible 350 or 600 minimum.

OP quotes neighbour, not Highway or Footway, 250mm

I always thought OP meant 'Original Poster' so that would have been MHC in this case as he started the thread.

How has this thread gone from a question about Morrisons coming to provide a fibre service via poles to how deep a duct is from various providers?

Edited by PCJM40 (Sat 21-Oct-23 10:36:35)

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In reply to a post by adamgrafton:

In reply to a post by MHC:

.......................... OR put theirsat a more sensible 350 or 600 minimum.

OP quotes neighbour, not Highway or Footway, 250mm

I always thought OP meant 'Original Poster' so that would have been MHC in this case as he started the thread.

How has this thread gone from a question about Morrisons coming to provider a fibre service via poles to how deep a duct is from various providers?

probably because the OP did not specify OH provision via poles

In reply to a post by adamgrafton:

probably because the OP did not specify OH provision via poles

Didn't he post below then?

In reply to a post by MHC:

there is a carrier pole with 50 m spans between poles and to house but everything else should be simple.

In reply to a post by adamgrafton:

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

In reply to a post by adamgrafton:

... nested quotes trimmed ...

OP quotes neighbour, not Highway or Footway, 250mm

I always thought OP meant 'Original Poster' so that would have been MHC in this case as he started the thread.

How has this thread gone from a question about Morrisons coming to provider a fibre service via poles to how deep a duct is from various providers?

probably because the OP did not specify OH provision via poles

Yep, this thread seems to have gone OT

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

In reply to a post by adamgrafton:

probably because the OP did not specify OH provision via poles

Didn't he post below then?

In reply to a post by MHC:

there is a carrier pole with 50 m spans between poles and to house but everything else should be simple.

Yes, he did post that later, and again later posted OR spec for duct depths which apply to, (using OR terminology), footway, walkway and carriageway, and obviously do not relate to poles.

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Yes, he did post that later, and again later posted OR spec for duct depths which apply to, (using OR terminology), footway, walkway and carriageway, and obviously do not relate to poles.

Yes, poles spoken about in 2nd of the OP posts so later than his first post but before the duct nonsense was introduced by other contributor.

So, two weeks later and still nothing! They have been back, I understand, twice more and "don't have the right equipment". Neighbours are getting £6/day compensation which is better than nothing but they would probably prefer the install!