1 Stage install?

Was driving to one of our properties and noticed 'just down the road' a coil of (probably) Fibre halfway up pole, and CBT at top of pole. Our pole which is fed overhead and some 200m further down and is last but one at end of line, has no sign of Fibre, ours is the only property fed directly off that pole, the lines carry on another 200m to the last pole which feeds the last house.
A check online and shows FTTP available and a 1 stage install.
Would a line which had to be 'strung' along a couple of poles before getting to our property be a '1 stage' install?

Yes.

As above, but the pessimist in me says that if the person allocated to the job is a contractor then they either won't have a long enough drop on the van, or they will pretend they don't because they can't be bothered to climb four poles to string the fibre along them.

Noooooooogh … I couldn’t ever imagine such a thing

I should say that we have no intention of having FTTP at this property, the resident only has need of a phoneline, in fact I'm not looking forward to BT moving it to DV as if there's any problems it's me that will have to sort it out.

In reply to a post by jpm:

As above, but the pessimist in me says that if the person allocated to the job is a contractor then they either won't have a long enough drop on the van, or they will pretend they don't because they can't be bothered to climb four poles to string the fibre along them.

OR fibre guys today where up poles on a blind dipped road in the middle of 60mph winds, so I salute them for being up there. Meanwhile two of our trees came down in the garden (due to very wet ground and the wind)

Edited by Taras (Mon 26-Feb-24 22:26:27)

In reply to a post by burble:

I should say that we have no intention of having FTTP at this property, the resident only has need of a phoneline, in fact I'm not looking forward to BT moving it to DV as if there's any problems it's me that will have to sort it out.

😁😂🙈

my facial expression upon reading your reply lol

Have recently witnessed that ...

In reply to a post by burble:

I should say that we have no intention of having FTTP at this property, the resident only has need of a phoneline, in fact I'm not looking forward to BT moving it to DV as if there's any problems it's me that will have to sort it out.

By Dec 2025 you won't have a choice. The upcoming 'SOTAP for Analogue' product is supposed to provide an equivalent PSTN service for existing WLR3-only lines, i.e. those with no ADSL or FTTC. It is still VoIP, however the electronics are located in the exchange rather than customers premises - there are no changes required at the customer end.

I'm not sure how many communications providers will bother, so you may be limited to BT Retail once it is available. Just keep fobbing off DV migration until then.

In reply to a post by tdw42:

The upcoming 'SOTAP for Analogue' product is supposed to provide an equivalent PSTN service for existing WLR3-only lines, i.e. those with no ADSL or FTTC.

Edit: nvm 🤦🏻‍♂️

Edited by j0hn83 (Tue 27-Feb-24 03:54:46)

As of 5 Sep 2023, you have been unable to order a new analogue phone line anyway.

Therefore your choices will be:
1. FTTP with digital voice
2. FTTC with digital voice

(unless you're in a copper "stop sell" area, in which case option 2 will not be available to you)

If FTTP is available, then you should go with option 1 now to avoid the hassle of a second installation in few years time. Just take the lowest speed available (40/10) with a voice service.

In the event of a power outage, FTTP will be more reliable, as it doesn't rely on backup battery power in the cabinet. But you will still need your own backup power.

You *might* be able to order a voice-only "phone line", but it will still be a port on a router, and will have a very low speed (0.5Mbps) broadband connection to provide the service. The wholesale product was supposed to be available over both FTTP and FTTC. I have not heard of anyone actually being able to order a phone service based on this. If anyone sells it, it will be BT.

Note that "SOTAP" and "SOTAP for Analogue" are two different things.

SOTAP is ADSL broadband (without voice baseband).

SOTAP for Analogue is a voice baseband service, provided from a media gateway in the exchange.

This a new thing? Never heard of it 😂

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

This a new thing? Never heard of it 😂

Is this what you mean? I got sent the link when I asked the same question on another forum.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2023/11/openre... - SOTAP for analogue

That's the one.

That would give us another 6 years, better than nothing. If I had my way the BT line would be disconnected and he would have to use the mobile we bought him.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Yes.

Yes 1 stage requires no special equipment