New FTTP install speedtest

Just had FTTP installed. I paid for the 80/20 service from my IP as i dont need faster

Ran a few speed tests wired and wireless and get the same results. Are these acceptable? Download seems a tad slow for an 80mbps service(i know you never truly get that due to overheads etc)

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/17747022905...

Just to caveat the speeds, i am using an old Netgear D6400 (wifi5) not sure if that makes a difference?

Edited by bobble_bob (Sat 28-Mar-26 13:03:35)

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Just to caveat the speeds, i am using an old Netgear D6400 (wifi5) not sure if that makes a difference?

Are you testing over WiFi or Ethernet? Always worth trying Ethernet if you can.

WiFi 5 (ac) should have plenty of capacity to reach 79 Mbps, which I thought you should get with FTTP. This looks about 8 Mbps slower than I expected.

Tried on Ethernet too get the same speeds.

The router is about 10 years old though so not sure if thats effecting it. Also i notice that i get random ping spikes (again on Ethernet).

For example i used cmd to ping the bbc website.

Most pings were 8ms, but every 30 seconds or so i would get a ping in thee 40-60ms

I'm on TT 150/30, just done a TBB speed test and it comes up 151/31 on wifi, although the x1 is down a bit from normal, this is fairly typical for my speed tests.
https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/17747169343...

I do wonder if the old router is the cause then. I know 80Mbps isnt super fast, but could an old router throttle the speed?

I'm using a Sagemcom Fast5364, which is WiFi5, it's over 6 years old, so not the most modern, and I would guess your D6400 should at least match it's performance.

D6400 is 11 years old so nearly twice the age of your router.

Im not too fussed, 70mbps is more than enough for my needs anyway

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I do wonder if the old router is the cause then. I know 80Mbps isnt super fast, but could an old router throttle the speed?

My WiFi 6 (ax) router is 6 years old.

It is possible that hardware could be a limitation if it was designed assuming the majority of users would get less than 80 Mbps. This is more a case if your ISP uses PPPoE login as some very old hardware can hit performance with PPPoE.

In most cases that would be over 100 Mbps, not the difference between your 71 Mbps speed test, and the 79 normal limit.

It does use a login

My ISP said they would email Monday to make sure everything is ok, i will mention it

Although doubt 8mbps short of expected speeds is enough for them to do anything

Some people test with a PC connected via an ethernet cable straight into the ONT and using a PPPoE connection, this would rule out the router.

Ah ok thanks will try that. Didnt know that would work if my ISP require username/password for the router

You will still need to put the username/password in

https://ebilling.aquiss.net/knowledgebase.php?id=105...

Ah ok thank you

Looks fine to me.

Circa 90% on single threaded, pretty good, saturation on multi threaded, happy days right?

Multithreas and single appear to be the same, unless im not reading it right. Both about 71Mbps

My ISP replied and said its not uncommon for speeds to start slower and build up over the weeks to the full speed. Never heard that before?

Either way yes im happy with 71Mbps just thought it would be close to 78Mbps

Edited by bobble_bob (Mon 30-Mar-26 09:16:10)

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My ISP replied and said its not uncommon for speeds to start slower and build up over the weeks to the full speed. Never heard that before?

for xDSL based lines, yes that is correct but not for fttp lines.

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yes im happy with 71Mbps just thought it would be close to 78Mbps

I personally wouldn't be happy with 71Mbps on FTTP but happy for you.

I could pay for more speed, but when i live alone and only really use my connection for browsing and 1 Netflix stream, dont really need much more

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I could pay for more speed, but when i live alone and only really use my connection for browsing and 1 Netflix stream, dont really need much more

It wasn't the 80Mbps product I was referring too but the actual FTTP speed of 71Mbps that I would be disappointed with if it was advertised as 80Mbps. If you bought a box of 8 cakes and when you looked inside one was missing how would you feel. On Plusnet they advertise the equivalent service as 74Mbps which I think is more honest considering the overheads.

I think most ISPs seem to advertised the theoretical throughout, rather than actual throughput including overheads etc

As long as you're happy thats all that matters

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My ISP replied and said its not uncommon for speeds to start slower and build up over the weeks to the full speed. Never heard that before?

It's difficult to see exactly what Pulse8 offer for their elevated pricing. A reseller agreement with Gamma and the same off-a-script answer that isn't relevant to FTTP that lots of first-line agents try and use to get a ticket off their stats. Where's the USP?

This isn't to say that 71Mbps is a fault, there might be PPPoE overheads from a router that isn't configured to use baby jumbo frames, there might be QoS by default etc. but to get that answer back from an ISP that charges the same for 80Mbps that others charge for 1Gbps is unacceptable.

I agree that response is very copy and paste and isnt relevant to FTTP.

Personally ive always had top notch support from them. Phone lines answered within seconds of phoning, and emails answered within minutes of sending for the most part and arent usually cookie cutter responses

They dont work weekends tho, thats a negative. Maybe other resellers are similar (ive been with Pulse8 for years so can't compare), but seems alot of the bigger ISPs get the bad reviews for lack of decent support. Overall i cant really say this of Pulse8

What are Gamma like anyway, any experience? Never heard of them until i got FTTP

Edited by bobble_bob (Mon 30-Mar-26 13:25:33)

Gamma are a massive B2B provider, they're fine and the network will never get congested, but they offer no frills at all. They seem to have zero interest in IPv6, for example.

you can bypass the router and connect straight to the ont and do a speed test - that will tell you if your router is just too old

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you can bypass the router and connect straight to the ont and do a speed test - that will tell you if your router is just too old

Not possible to do it. You still need PPPoE via Windows 10/11 first before do the speed test

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In reply to a post by Taras:

you can bypass the router and connect straight to the ont and do a speed test - that will tell you if your router is just too old

Not possible to do it. You still need PPPoE via Windows 10/11 first before do the speed test

well yes both linux and windows supports pppoe