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Standard User Alucidnation
(committed) Fri 26-Jun-26 15:35:09
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FTTP but only 1Gb available


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Trying a few different BB supplier lists and some providers are showing 1700+ available to us.

Ordered from one supplier that showed as available and they came back and said that our connection is only capable of 1Gbps max as thats all thats available?

Spoke to another and they said we can have the 1750.

What's the score with this then?

I would have thought that if one can supply it then they all can, regardless of if they actually offer it?

This is all via OR network.
Standard User PCJM40
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 26-Jun-26 15:49:39
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In reply to a post by Alucidnation:
Trying a few different BB supplier lists and some providers are showing 1700+ available to us.

Ordered from one supplier that showed as available and they came back and said that our connection is only capable of 1Gbps max as thats all thats available?

Spoke to another and they said we can have the 1750.

What's the score with this then?

I would have thought that if one can supply it then they all can, regardless of if they actually offer it?

This is all via OR network.
Are the ISP's you're talking too using their own cable links connected to the OLT?
Standard User Alucidnation
(committed) Fri 26-Jun-26 17:11:53
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Re: FTTP but only 1Gb available


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In reply to a post by Alucidnation:
Trying a few different BB supplier lists and some providers are showing 1700+ available to us.

Ordered from one supplier that showed as available and they came back and said that our connection is only capable of 1Gbps max as thats all thats available?

Spoke to another and they said we can have the 1750.

What's the score with this then?

I would have thought that if one can supply it then they all can, regardless of if they actually offer it?

This is all via OR network.
Are the ISP's you're talking too using their own cable links connected to the OLT?


Not sure i understand?

We have an OR fibre to the ONT in the house.

FYI IDnet says yes, Aquiss says no.

Edited by Alucidnation (Fri 26-Jun-26 17:12:34)


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ISP Representative aquiss
(isp) Fri 26-Jun-26 19:05:55
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Re: FTTP but only 1Gb available


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In reply to a post by Alucidnation:
Aquiss says no.


Do you mind replying to sales ticket that our systems would have generated and mark for my attention so I can investigate this further?

Martin Pitt
Managing Director

Aquiss Limited
https://www.aquiss.net

SoGEA, FTTP, FTTH, Leased Lines, Telecoms and Hosting
The above post has been made by an ISP REPRESENTATIVE (although not necessarily the ISP being discussed in the post).
Standard User PCJM40
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 26-Jun-26 22:20:44
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Re: FTTP but only 1Gb available


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The limiting factor is not the fibre cable between your property and the Openreach exchange where it terminates on equipment known as an OLT (Optical Line Terminal), on the back of those OLTs are cable links from various backhaul providers and dependant on the ISP you pick will determine what cable link is used. If the chosen cable link is over subscribed you won't be able to pick some of the higher speeds, thats why not all ISPs can offer the same top end speeds.
Standard User Alucidnation
(committed) Fri 26-Jun-26 22:23:16
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Re: FTTP but only 1Gb available


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In reply to a post by aquiss:
In reply to a post by Alucidnation:
Aquiss says no.


Do you mind replying to sales ticket that our systems would have generated and mark for my attention so I can investigate this further?


Thanks Martin

I have replied to the ticket putting your name at the top of the message

Ticket Number #000255

Edited by Alucidnation (Fri 26-Jun-26 22:25:46)

Standard User Alucidnation
(committed) Fri 26-Jun-26 22:24:07
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Re: FTTP but only 1Gb available


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In reply to a post by PCJM40:
The limiting factor is not the fibre cable between your property and the Openreach exchange where it terminates on equipment known as an OLT (Optical Line Terminal), on the back of those OLTs are cable links from various backhaul providers and dependant on the ISP you pick will determine what cable link is used. If the chosen cable link is over subscribed you won't be able to pick some of the higher speeds, thats why not all ISPs can offer the same top end speeds.


Ok thanks for the explanation.
ISP Representative aquiss
(isp) Sat 27-Jun-26 06:39:02
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Replied, hopefully that explains who is building to your property.

Martin Pitt
Managing Director

Aquiss Limited
https://www.aquiss.net

SoGEA, FTTP, FTTH, Leased Lines, Telecoms and Hosting
The above post has been made by an ISP REPRESENTATIVE (although not necessarily the ISP being discussed in the post).
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 27-Jun-26 08:58:16
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Also if the cable links were only 1gbits then you aren't gonna get the 1.2 or 1.8(1640mbits-ish) offering.

I know this isn't part of your question, but you can thus understand why its just not OR's job to deploy xgs-pon but isp having 10gbits plus cable links
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 27-Jun-26 11:14:43
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I know this isn't part of your question, but you can thus understand why its just not OR's job to deploy xgs-pon but isp having 10gbits plus cable links

Or the wholesale provider, as not every ISP has cable links in each handover location. There are a lot more ISPs.

26 years of broadband connectivity since Sep 1999 trial - Live BQM
Standard User BLaZiNgSPEED
(experienced) Sat 27-Jun-26 21:56:39
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You can check this https://checker.ofcom.org.uk/en-gb/broadband-coverage#
See what the max speed is showing along with any Altnets or Wholesale offerings.

Often the wholesale examples such as that of Nexfibre will show Ultrafast 10000 Mbps 10000 Mbps
However, that's more to do with it being an XGS-PON capability rather than the ISP. Neither VM or GiffGaff offer such packages. The max is 2Gbps on VM via Nexfibre.

Community Fibre is accurate and will show Ultrafast 5000 Mbps 5000 Mbps

If you are stuck only on Openreach FTTP even if you get more than 1Gbps, you will not get 1Gbps symmetrical upload due to GPON limitation.

The GPON limitation is also a reason why Openreach cannot offer much higher speeds. If the Altnet or wholesale provider offers XGS-PON only then you will not run into this limitation.

Your motherboard and Network card must also support more than 1Gbps or otherwise these packages will be useless and a waste of money. This also means good quality NVMe M.2 SSD. You also won't get 2Gbps speeds on SATA SSD, keep that in mind!!!
Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 29-Jun-26 00:14:11
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In reply to a post by BLaZiNgSPEED:
Your motherboard and Network card must also support more than 1Gbps or otherwise these packages will be useless and a waste of money. This also means good quality NVMe M.2 SSD. You also won't get 2Gbps speeds on SATA SSD, keep that in mind!!!


I agree with him on this.
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 29-Jun-26 08:13:01
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In reply to a post by BLaZiNgSPEED:
If you are stuck only on Openreach FTTP even if you get more than 1Gbps, you will not get 1Gbps symmetrical upload due to GPON limitation.

The GPON limitation is also a reason why Openreach cannot offer much higher speeds. If the Altnet or wholesale provider offers XGS-PON only then you will not run into this limitation.


if you are in a type c bduk/project gigabit area, and you can find an isp who sells it - you can indeed get 1gbit up/down.


In reply to a post by BLaZiNgSPEED:
Your motherboard and Network card must also support more than 1Gbps or otherwise these packages will be useless and a waste of money. This also means good quality NVMe M.2 SSD. You also won't get 2Gbps speeds on SATA SSD, keep that in mind!!!


For short downloads on good hdds you can get 200mbits transfer till the buffer runs out. Anyhooooooo any reasoanble ssd be it stata or pcie based ssd will do
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