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(deleted) Mon 11-Oct-10 12:17:06
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Re: FTTC Installation Questions


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In reply to a post by ffox:
Thinking about it, I really would prefer to have the master socket moved from the front hall to the computer room at the back. That is the logical place for it - accessible power points, short leads to modems/routers/PCs, and easy access to the test socket.

I don't mind paying for it as long as it can be done without wires going round door frames and along skirting boards. My idea of using the existing CAT5 was to avoid unnecessary external wiring and wall drilling. Do you think it would work, and would Openreach do it?


When my Infinity was installed, the engineer moved the master socket from my hallway to the lounge at no cost.

I would imagine as long as you don't require a lot of internal wiring, relocating the socket shouldn't be too much of a problem.
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(member) Mon 11-Oct-10 16:56:07
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Sounds good - thank you. smile

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(deleted) Mon 11-Oct-10 23:16:03
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When my Infinity was installed, the engineer moved the master socket from my hallway to the lounge at no cost.


one off helpful engineer smile


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(deleted) Thu 14-Oct-10 09:05:24
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Re: FTTC Installation Questions


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So....supposing, theoretically of course, that a problem develops and openreach come out to repair theretical problem, ..and find faceplate gone for a walk and filters fitted. Customer says slow speeds , or whatever, and opernreach engineer says ok at master socket. customer will not get any further as other wiring belongs to them !

PS just for info, nte5 can be moved to be near pc, on install, so theoretically, why change what works ?
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(staff) Thu 14-Oct-10 09:21:28
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Its not the bottom half that changes but the top of the faceplate.

As such that remains Openreach property, and with VDSL2 it would be chargeable immediately if this VDSL2 SSFP goes missing.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Thu 14-Oct-10 22:17:14
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Hi,

Where does the VDSL modem fit in? I'm getting BT Infinity on Monday and I assumed it would be just like a typical ADSL setup and I would be able to just swap out my current router which is on the 2nd floor of the house with the BT Homehub. So basically right now I have a long RJ45 (I think thats what its called) coming out of the microfilter that comes out of what I'm guessing is the master socket if I'm understanding all the lingo and going into my upstairs router.

Assuming I have power sockets by my master socket will there be any particular problems introduced with the VDSL modem (I don't want to have to move stuff downstairs) and is there any particular reason I couldn't have the VDSL modem upstairs? Does FTTC require a microfilter and if so does the VDSL modem come before or after it?

Thanks,
Jim
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(Unregistered)Thu 14-Oct-10 22:43:04
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the bt openreach engineer will fit a special master socket with built in filter - this can be extended up to 30 meters.
the vdsl modem will connect to this socket with a broadbad cable (RJ11) and it needs a power socket also.
then u will need to run an ethernet cable (RJ45) from the ethernet port in the back of the modem to the input ethernet port in the back of the wireless router.
then you can connect to your computer either wirelessly or by ethernet from back of router to ethernet port in back of computer.
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(Unregistered)Fri 15-Oct-10 01:45:41
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Ok so currently I have a long RJ11 cable running from the microfilter to the top of the house, would it then be possible for me to have this going from the new master socket then upstairs to the VDSL modem or is there a reason for it to be in close proximity to the socket?

Thanks,
Jim
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(staff) Fri 15-Oct-10 09:10:37
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They will not re-use the existing RJ11 cable (especially if it is not twisted pair).

The VDSL modem can be sited up to 30m of cable away from the master socket, but every meter of cable with VDSL can reduce sync speed, i.e. it is sensistive to cable length a lot more than ADSL2+.

NOTE: If you existing router is plugged into the ADSL line directly, then this router will not work with the VDSL2 modem. You need a different router, one with a WAN Ethernet interface - usually labelled as suitable for Virgin Media cable services in the UK shops. The retail chains appear not to be aware of VDSL products yet.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User Matt182
(regular) Fri 15-Oct-10 15:53:18
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That interesting, I asked this question and was told something different. Thanks for sharing that information

So its better to have the VDSL2 modem as close to the master socket as possible and then replace the RJ11 cable with a network cable back to the router.
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