well it may come as a shock but once again it seems that as far as BT is concerned Silence is Golden, No reply from MOD's on their forum about this, also when speaking to Infinity Sales team they have informed me that March 2011 for FTTC will be unable to be met by them due to the following:-
1. Delay in getting the new Dslam's made
2. Country wide shortage of Fibre Cable
3. Staff working flat out.
I informed him that the new dslam's and cable and staff have completed all the work (same as Bob), no no he said thats not correct, I asked did he want me to send him a photo of the above, I'm sorry sir you can't have a photo of this as it's not been carried out yet.
Ok change tack me thinks, so asked if it was due to the problems peeps have been having with low speeds, no that has been sorted and any way it was a small equipment fault that affected only a small area. Yeah ok I said
So gents your guess is as good as mine on what is going on

Don't expect anything usefull from the mods, they get told what they are and are not allowed to say.

I don't think there is anything fishy going on, it's just a combination of several factors. All of which we will never know for sure.

The 2Mbit slowdown seems fixed for most but there are still a few people reporting the problem. They must be imagining it though because it was only a small area that was effected and it's been fixed

http://www.sendspace.com/file/vt2ne4

that link is for scotland as i'm in wales no good for me lol

lol suit yourself

In reply to a post by lockyatlrg:

My theory for this delay...


If the fat lazy sods that work for BT did some work instead of just sitting in the vans drinking tea all day, things might move along more quicker..

without fail every time I drive past BT van, they are doing NOTHING and drinking tea.

So people working outside in the cold aren't entitled to a cup of tea? Or is that just BT engineers?
Lazy? over the last 4 months Openreach have kept calling contractual overtime often meaning engineers working 6day weeks - whatever the weather. New contracts also meaning a normal day can end at 7/8pm.
The reason for any delay will be complex and several factors but the fact that LLU has boosted demand for new orders 250,000 extra lines last quater (story recently about CEO of Openreach writing a letter of apology to CPs about lead-times) will have an impact. The bad weather that often occurs this time of year often results in network construction engineers being re-posted to reactive fault work which doesnt help.
Relying on contractors who then subcontract due to lack of resource wont help the build either.
Personally it looks like a manpower issue to me, with huge demand for its legacy products - a workforce that was cut 30k over the last 2 years and the normal hurdles one would expect with such a huge programme it is no surprise that some people will be waiting a little longer for fibre.

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

Lazy? over the last 4 months Openreach have kept calling contractual overtime often meaning engineers working 6day weeks - whatever the weather. New contracts also meaning a normal day can end at 7/8pm.
The reason for any delay will be complex and several factors but the fact that LLU has boosted demand for new orders 250,000 extra lines last quater (story recently about CEO of Openreach writing a letter of apology to CPs about lead-times) will have an impact. The bad weather that often occurs this time of year often results in network construction engineers being re-posted to reactive fault work which doesnt help.
Relying on contractors who then subcontract due to lack of resource wont help the build either.
Personally it looks like a manpower issue to me, with huge demand for its legacy products - a workforce that was cut 30k over the last 2 years and the normal hurdles one would expect with such a huge programme it is no surprise that some people will be waiting a little longer for fibre.

A lot of that makes perfect sense, but in my opinion doesn't add up to the reason for the current backing off.

I have been amazed at the cabinet installations going ahead here during the recent sub-zero temperatures. That they aren't empty cabinets is illustrated by this post and my response to Zarjaz's reply to it.

There are several similar experiences now being reported.

That work seems to have been pushed ahead in the way you describe, contractual overtime in a big push to get the cabinets commissioned. I think it is fair to assume that connectivity to the exchange is complete, as there has been associated running of fibre through the ducts in the area over the last few months.

So why does the BTW checker no longer show any date for FTTC on this number, having changed on 16 December from 31 December to 31 March?

There has to be something unrelated to your suggestions.

On Thursday my line reported:
>Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 31st March 2011.

Today it reports:

Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 1st July 2011

take our pick i get different dates

Bt Map - MARCH 2011

BT Line Checker - DEC2010
BT Whole Sale Checker - DEC2010


so im set for Febuary 15th as its in between

Echange is haslington, I know they are working still as they have done 2 cabs up the road but im woundering the 2011 is the expected completed date for the entire area as i know people who got BT Infinity before the comp Date .

But Who Knows ...........Only OPen Reach i Guess

Get a grip, it was ment as a joke :/

Edited by lockyatlrg (Sun 19-Dec-10 09:38:24)