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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 01-Feb-11 09:34:39
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In reply to a post by vdsl_steve:
Thanks BatBoy.
Here are the stats.
Unfortunately, the CLI says the same as the GUI for attenuation etc.

Cheers

Steve


Excellent news, I'm glad that the Speedtouch interface works.


Would it be possible to post some photos of the master socket, phone and modem connections?

Looks like you have some sort of cabling problem.
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Tue 01-Feb-11 09:39:09
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Re: Here are some VDSL Line Stats...


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I thought the new faceplate supplies the rest of the house wiring via a filter, so you can only connect the modem at the master socket


me too. However if the filter has failed (not exactly unknown) then disconnecting the extensions could be illuminating.

I don't know if the VDSL faceplate presents a new filtered test socket in the style of an iPlate - anyone ?

Phil

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(staff) Tue 01-Feb-11 09:43:52
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VDSL socketry means that extensions should all be filtered.

Here is the BUT (a) if its all working perfectly and components can fail early in life in faceplates (b) if lots of phones and extensions then this may be affecting electrical characteristics of the line, a faceplate is not an opto isolation.

VDSL is also heading towards an area where I am not sure whether some HomePlugs may have an affect, watching to see what happens in terms of post. The RF world is great in theory, but a lot of it is emperical experience.

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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Tue 01-Feb-11 09:50:36
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Re: Here are some VDSL Line Stats...


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VDSL socketry means that extensions should all be filtered.


but is the visible test socket filtered ?

Phil

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(deleted) Tue 01-Feb-11 10:14:54
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A couple of generail points about the VDSL filter faceplate.
This faceplate is built upon the I-Plate design and you are correct in that the socket exposed when the lower half is removed is filtered, so cannot supply BB.
It is quite possible (I have not taken one apart so I do not know for sure) that in the case of this faceplate, the ring line is looped through from the master socket, as in the case of an I-Plate, and not produced after the filter as with all other filter faceplates. This could be a cost saving excercise (not having to provide an additional capacitor)
The VDSL faceplate is no better than a conventional filter faceplate, but is easy to fit as no wires have to be disconnected.
My advice would be to replace it with a conventional filter faceplate.

Edited by deleted (Tue 01-Feb-11 10:15:41)

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 01-Feb-11 11:21:22
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Not sure why you regard it as unsafe - trip hazard ?
Mainly the physical instability of the connections between the splitters, or even that of just a single splitter. They are often dodgy.

One also has to wonder about the possibility of T2/T5 switch-overs or even split pairs in a DIY setup.

Reading other posts since, it looks as though others also have doubts about the setup. Though maybe the OP considers all BT engineers are fools.

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(deleted) Thu 03-Feb-11 10:22:23
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The setup is standard and completely ok.
In my original post, in order to try to clarify that there wasn't any dodgy wiring, I said that there were no punched down connection within the master. But people seem fixated on this. It was meant as extra information to try to minimise extra questions because I hadn't been clear in the first place. For some reason it is having the opposite effect.
The master socket has a standard BT VDSL faceplate, fitted by a well clued up BT engineer, who showed me my 28meg sync speed on his Fluke (I think it was). The modem is plugged in the RJ-11 socket. The phones are plugged in the phone socket, except when someone has asked me to unplug them for a test.
If anyone is being bullied, I would say it was me.

>Though maybe the OP considers all BT engineers are fools.
>
Not sure where you got that from. Chill out!

Steve

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(deleted) Thu 03-Feb-11 10:23:48
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Thanks for that.
It could be useful. I'll wait to see if anyone clarifies.
Then I'll go looking for rogue microwave ovens!
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(deleted) Thu 03-Feb-11 10:27:59
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Thanks for your help so far.
There's no cabling problem: Unmolested BT master RJ11 via 1m lead straight into modem. Phones also through front of master through phone socket. No other sockets in the house.
Though I do think I need to get some newer firmware onto the modem, as the stats are very wrong.
Speeds were very similar on Huawei, so I don't think the modem is the speed problem either.
Cheers
Steve
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(deleted) Thu 03-Feb-11 10:29:05
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See if your firmware behaves any better.
I believe 8.4.2 is available, though I haven't tried reflashing the device yet.
Steve
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