I don't remember seeing it..... but i will look again, thanks very much.

That link the OP gave redirects to a page that doesn't have this router. Within "compstore" nor "store". How did you find it?

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

In reply to a post by MHC:

Why shielded? A twisted pair cable would be adequate in most cases.

Mine are made from 2 pair Cat5e and RJ12s.

The last Belkin shielded cable with RJ11/12 was about £10 for 1.5 metres

Given he may have a noise problem, for some reason he's losing bit-loading, might as well change everything as much as possible to narrow down the problem. What's a few quid when you've already replaced the VDSL modem?

In view of the expectation by systemx in this thread, and the mini-conversation between RandomJointer and Zarjaz in this thread, it seems quite likely that if the ring wires in any of those cat5 extensions are connected then there is a major problem there.

If the cat5s are just T2 and T5 then fine. As long as the possibility I raised before of cross-overs has been eliminated by the OP. He hasn't said so.

But then - what do I know .

Edited by RobertoS (Sun 06-Feb-11 09:11:31)

I feel I should say again that I have not look inside a new VDSL faceplate yet so what I said is just an educated guess, However If I were going to use the I-Plate as a basis for a filter faceplate, then I would leave the ring line looped through via the filter choke as it is there already.
In the case of the OP's master, I fully understand that he has his extensions run from the faceplate phone socket, but he may be using a normal telephone wire with a bt plug crimpted on, and this would have a ring line in it. As the master socket is in the loft and therefore high up it would/may be more prone to RF interferance. If he has made his own connection with the ring line left out at the BT plug end then fine.

Certainly a normal filter faceplate would address any such problems and is worth a try.

In reply to a post by systemx:

I feel I should say again that I have not look inside a new VDSL faceplate yet so what I said is just an educated guess

I understood. I didn't read into it more than you intended.

But because we have finally established that plug-in extensions are in use, the topic about which the OP got so strangely irate about me trying to find out, I was just re-raising the issue in case you are right, as it seems to have been ignored.

However If I were going to use the I-Plate as a basis for a filter faceplate, then I would leave the ring line looped through via the filter choke as it is there already.
In the case of the OP's master, I fully understand that he has his extensions run from the faceplate phone socket, but he may be using a normal telephone wire with a bt plug crimpted on, and this would have a ring line in it. As the master socket is in the loft and therefore high up it would/may be more prone to RF interferance. If he has made his own connection with the ring line left out at the BT plug end then fine.

He does say it is Cat5, and given the location I suspect a DIY job. Therefore quite possibly the ring wire is not connected. It depends on whether its detrimental quality was known about by whoever did it, or whether they just followed the standard spec BT connections.

Certainly a normal filter faceplate would address any such problems and is worth a try.

Exactly. I also suspect he has an ADSL Nation one now unused.

Interesting to know from you and the others that the VDSL faceplate isn't anything basically different from the normal BT ADSL faceplate. Farce!

The reason for the new faceplate is because it can be fitted without disconnecting any exsisting wiring.
Lets leep forward a bit to a FTTC "wires only" product, where Openreach do the cab end and leave the end user to do their instalation. It makes it easy for the end user to fit a filter faceplate, and easy for a company like Sky who already have installers to get a quick 10 min course on how to fit one and avoids all the problems which may occure if extension wires are disconnected.

In reply to a post by systemx:

The reason for the new faceplate is because it can be fitted without disconnecting any exsisting wiring.
Lets leep forward a bit to a FTTC "wires only" product, where Openreach do the cab end and leave the end user to do their instalation. It makes it easy for the end user to fit a filter faceplate, and easy for a company like Sky who already have installers to get a quick 10 min course on how to fit one and avoids all the problems which may occure if extension wires are disconnected.

Very good points.

Post deleted by maniac886

Right you are

Yes, it looks like they have removed it from sale.
Or maybe they just ran out of the batch they had and aren't getting any more.

Cheers

Steve