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(deleted) Sun 06-Feb-11 20:07:12
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Re: Here are some VDSL Line Stats...


[re: billford] [link to this post]
 
I don't think screening the final 30cm of the 500m run from the cabinet is going to make a lot of difference!
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(deleted) Sun 06-Feb-11 20:14:47
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[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
Thanks for the ideas on the faceplates.
You are right, I do have a spare (supposedly high grade) adsl nation faceplate.
The BT engineer removed it as part of the standard install and replaced it with a BT one.

My phone extensions use the ringer circuit in the master. I use secondary LAUs with my RJ-45 cabling. The only bit of home made kit for the phone cabling is a BT to BT plug cable to get the phone signal into the patch panel via a LAU. But this doesn't really matter, as my line stats don't change if I disconnect my phones at the BT socket on the front of the master. With only my modem connected to the master, the problem is still there.

I will try my ADSL Nation faceplate. Maybe I'll get a little more speed, but I doubt it will fix the interference I have on my line.

Cheers

Steve
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(deleted) Sun 06-Feb-11 20:19:52
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[re: maniac886] [link to this post]
 
It works with IDNet, though I couldn't say if it would work with BT direct, though I expect it probably would.

It's a pretty rubbish router though. The stats it reports are close to useless. I posted them on this forum as I thought they looked a little wierd. Well, they look wierd because they are wrong!

I upgraded the firmware to 8.4.2. That hasn't fixed the stats, though it does seem to have reduced the random rebooting. Before upgrading the firmware, the longest it stayed up was 11 hours!

Cheers

Steve


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(deleted) Sun 06-Feb-11 20:25:01
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Well, I tried the 'cut the power' test and it did not improve the stats.
I turned off all the lights.
Removed all HomePlugs.
Turned off all DECT phones.
Turned off all WiFi.
Laptop on battery power, so no SMPS.
I left one 240v filament lamp on to do the job.
No change to the stats.

So I think I can pretty much conclude that the noise on the line is coming from outside my house. So I think that's it really. Not much can be done to improve the connection. Hopefully my wire will fail completely within a couple of years and they'll put me on some newer copper.

Thanks for all your help and suggestions.

Steve
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(deleted) Sun 06-Feb-11 20:59:29
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What about the CLI stats? Should be:
xdsl info expand=enabled
Or just use "menu".

The router is available from DSL Shop:
http://www.technicolor.dslshop.co.uk/789_datasheet.a...
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(member) Sun 06-Feb-11 21:17:47
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Cheers,

I am not with BT either, I am with Aquiss. If the stats that it is reporting are not correct then I may look elsewhere because I won't be able to find out the source of my problem. Thanks for reporting back.
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(sensei) Sun 06-Feb-11 21:18:37
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Ta smile, but frown.

Maybe you could set up an advertising company with that track record smile!

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 06-Feb-11 21:32:07
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Re: Here are some VDSL Line Stats...


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... I will try my ADSL Nation faceplate. Maybe I'll get a little more speed, but I doubt it will fix the interference I have on my line.

Cheers
It may add a tiny bit of speed, but down at the 6Mbps level on ADSL2/2+ it lost a little compared to several dangly filters. Also gained a little on others. (I have 10 of the things). By a little, I mean a consistent 100-150kbps, but what effect there could be at your speeds I have no idea.

The important difference between a BT ADSL filtered faceplate and an ADSL Nation XTE-2005 is that the XTE-2005 filters the ring wire on all connections, except perhaps the A/B terminals. (Don't know on that bit). The BT one does not. On the other hand, the primary purpose of the iPlate is to filter the ring wire.

Hence the thoughts by systemx as to what the BT VDSL faceplate does in relation to the ring wire. Only taking one apart will answer that question.

But I take your point that disconnecting the extensions makes no difference. Equally, remember my point as it may be relevant in the future.

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Standard User MHC
(legend) Sun 06-Feb-11 21:56:46
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Re: Here are some VDSL Line Stats...


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
In reply to a post by BatBoy:
If the cat5s are just T2 and T5 then fine. As long as the possibility I raised before of cross-overs has been eliminated by the OP. He hasn't said so.

But then - what do I know frown.


It would probably not work as the pins used on the RJ11/RJ12 will normally be 3 and 4. Even if teh others were connected they are unlikely to cause any problems as there will be no connection at teh NTE socket.






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(deleted) Mon 07-Feb-11 01:17:25
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Hi Steve,

Could you post the link for the 8.4.2 firmware please? As mine rebooted after 1hr!!! so its back in the box as we speak! I've never really been a fan of thomson routers...... i'm more of a Netgear fan....... the GUI is so much clearer and much easier to navigate on Netgear routers!

I think all that is wrong with the stats is a decimal point error!! I know mine had 7dB attn down and 3dB up and mine shows 0.7 and 0.3.... yours is more confusing as your line looks to be in double digits.... so it could be 10 or 19dB.

If it becomes stable with the new firmware..... and i can get to change the IP address...... i'll probabbly use mine till a better router is on offer just for the higher upstream throuhput.

For reference...... it works with IDnet and BT Infinity.... so i would say it works with all FTTC connections through BTW!
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