In reply to a post by dave2150:

In reply to a post by yarwell:

BT are light years behind most of the rest of the world.

what utter tosh. You are Bob22 and I claim my £5.

Britain has one of the lowest average broadband speeds in the whole of europe, so he has a point.....

The only thing we're exceptionally low on is speeds in high density urban areas.

Between Virgin's 100Mb cable product and BT's pretty weak attempt at NGA progress will be made, nonetheless the main obstacles are the expense of network construction and the potential lack of return on investment.

Ofcom ensured we have some of the lowest prices and have rigged our market so that it's a drive to the lowest common denominator, we're very price sensitive and few have much interest in paying the kind of sums required to recoup investment in new fibre infrastructure with the existing regulations, taxation and planning.

There was some Akamai report I think which showed us lower down, but that is actual throughput, and thus is because it seems the majority vote with their wallet and buy the cheapest packages that are available and give impression of broadband speeds.

If we look at what is available with some 45-50% of homes having VM 50Meg, FTTC'age passed climbing and 100Meg from VM (and others), then the availability is there, just we enjoy moaning that we don't have it.

There may be less moaning about coverage in France, due to the prevelance of rental properties, i.e. cheaper to move to an area with coverage if it is important.

I think there's also a fair indication (not sure I'd call it evidence) from both this bbs and the tbb broadband maps that a bit of attention to internal wiring could pay large dividends on many lines.

Arguably BT can take some of the blame for that by not providing good advice, but by no means all of it!

In reply to a post by billford:

I think there's also a fair indication (not sure I'd call it evidence) from both this bbs and the tbb broadband maps that a bit of attention to internal wiring could pay large dividends on many lines.

Arguably BT can take some of the blame for that by not providing good advice, but by no means all of it!

And for trying to charge £90 (was it?) to visit and fit an iPlate?

Do they still offer that service?

There may be less moaning about coverage in France

>shrug<

French FTTH takeup is very low - below 10%.

And for trying to charge £90 (was it?) to visit and fit an iPlate?

sounds like a main dealer labour chargeout rate, and you have to take the car to them.

And for trying to charge £90 (was it?) to visit and fit an iPlate?

I think that is the Home IT visit which may include fitting an iPlate

I prefer to deal in facts rather than BT;s PR spin. If you look at a report out today we are off the radar as far as FTTC is concerned, we are prety much a non starter
The front runners are:-

Lithuiania
Sweden
Norway
Slovinia
Slovakia
Russia
Denmark
Latvia
Estonia
Bulgeria
Portugal

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

In reply to a post by Rockh:

My spidey sense has been saying that since I read his first few posts

Was it the name that gave it away? I thought that was a big clue.

I like to give people the benefit of the doubt

In reply to a post by yarwell:

The apparent density was at least as big a clue. I'm just waiting for powerline broadband to surface as the next great thing.

God no...