Whats rude about it? He posted false information and I corrected it. All I've said is "misinformed" and "confidently trumpets" which seems to be the case.

Also it isn't exactly an opinion on my part. I've just stated the relevant facts. Others continue to post inaccurate or just blatently false stuff about the BT Infinity service without ever having used it. None of it is backed up in reality, or in evidence - yet a specific group seem intent on continually pumping out the misinformation. Meanwhile if an actual user posts anything positive they get shot down instantly.

Maybe you are still thinking about the time, a few weeks back, when it was you who needed corrected? Hmm. What was it? "forced to use the Home hub" (false) "...pay for delivery of it" (it's supplied free of charge) and "a strict usage policy" (when you were comparing it to a service from another ISP with a 30GB, 16 hour a day peak period!). You also tried the P2P throttling angle but stopped at "serious".

Funny enough, but more funny was it was your own thread where you were complaining about some dismal service from your carefully considered FTTC choice and how they managed to screw you over before the service was even installed. Stellar.

If ADSL24 had a forum, you wouldn't see me rocking up saying it only does this or only does that. Or inventing traffic management rules or deciding that despite them giving 30GB peak that it's only really 20GB because it would be laughable and false. Why the persistence and defence of those who wade in with this sort of nonsense when it's BT?

Edited by orly (Sun 06-Mar-11 19:55:07)

the bt hub is free of charge as long you stay in the contract for 12 months or more and i know people will do but just in case the below is on bt
and i am only saying people !!
3. Equipment prices
The Hub
The standard price of the hub is £91.90. We may allow you to defer payment of this price for up
to 12 months from the date that we accept your order. Any part of the standard price for the
hub that we allow you to defer, becomes payable either 12 months after we accept your order or
at the point that you end the service � whichever is the earlier. If you keep the service for 12
months or more from the date that we accepted your order, we will waive any deferred payment
that you would be liable to pay for the hub. If you end the service within 12 months of us
accepting your order, we will waive part of the payment that we allowed you to defer, but you
will still be liable to pay £46.00 towards the standard cost of the hub.
The

Also it isn't exactly an opinion on my part. I've just stated the relevant facts. Others continue to post inaccurate or just blatently false stuff about the BT Infinity service without ever having used it. None of it is backed up in reality, or in evidence - yet a specific group seem intent on continually pumping out the misinformation. Meanwhile if an actual user posts anything positive they get shot down instantly.

It is your opinion, and it is just as valid as anybody elses on here. Without different opinion debate would not be possible, whether misinformed or ultimately substantiated.

It just doesn't have to be made so competitive does it? You will never learn anything unless you first learn to listen.

So if we can now play nicely, do you think that maybe, just maybe all the talk of unlimited usage is a little bit of a smoke screen?

If you increase speed so dramatically as FTTC can, isn't the average user likely to consume more?

And won't the capacity need to rise accordingly?

In the electrical design industry we refer to it as "allowance for diversity". It's very important for calculating how to cope with peak demand. And it is very easy to bank on the low side as far as costs are concerned.

Which leads us nicely to BT's price point!

Now if you can point to a link to some of those figures for us, that would reinforce your opinion properly. Until then it's just your opinion.

Guys I was only asking about bt off peak and if they throttled it like peak I know everyone has there own favourites suppliers and you all use them for your own preferences such as peer to peer or news groups etc etc. Think my question as been lost in this debate lol

Remain calm, Orly.

BT Infinity is clearly the best value FTTC product on the market and is hoovering up the punters. Sky and TalkTalk are coming.

Punters will make up their own minds whether they wish to spend well over the odds for an alternative tiny provider or referral driven service.

In reply to a post by mrnelster:

... do you think that maybe, just maybe all the talk of unlimited usage is a little bit of a smoke screen?

If you increase speed so dramatically as FTTC can, isn't the average user likely to consume more?

And won't the capacity need to rise accordingly?

In the electrical design industry we refer to it as "allowance for diversity". It's very important for calculating how to cope with peak demand. And it is very easy to bank on the low side as far as costs are concerned.

Which leads us nicely to BT's price point!

Now if you can point to a link to some of those figures for us, that would reinforce your opinion properly. Until then it's just your opinion.

What is very obvious on these forums is the volume of high-usage downloaders who are going to BT Infinity precisely because the "unlimited" usage at a ridiculously low price is what always has attracted them in the past. For the latest example see this post.

That has to be a problem before long, if not already.

Even Be is losing such users to Infinity - no doubt much to the relief of all remaining O2 and Be customers.

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

Guys I was only asking about bt off peak and if they throttled it like peak I know everyone has there own favourites suppliers and you all use them for your own preferences such as peer to peer or news groups etc etc. Think my question as been lost in this debate lol

I suppose the question to ask if you are a very heavy user is how much the 240gig and 600gig usage would cost on an alternative provider. If you are less than 300gig it's a no brainer.

Edited by deleted (Sun 06-Mar-11 21:05:46)

Not read anything about sky coming where have you heard that

In reply to a post by RandomJointer:

In my opinion as a BT employee BT Infinity is clearly the best value FTTC product on the market and is hoovering up the punters. Sky and TalkTalk are coming.

Punters will make up their own minds whether they wish to spend well over the odds for an alternative tiny provider or referral driven service.

Corrected that for you.

Touch�!