>>I understand that smaller ISP's may have similar restrictions

Perhaps one of the fans of alternative services could let the forum know how much 240gig and 600gig quoted in the thread on these 'smaller isps' will cost?

Infinity is a 'no brainer' for the majority of punters on the Openreach platform. .

As recommended by ThinkBroadband referral agent, Xilo / Uno - "No one is able to match or come close to what BT are offering"

Edited by deleted (Mon 07-Mar-11 22:23:48)

In reply to a post by RandomJointer:

As recommended by ThinkBroadband referral agent, Xilo / Uno - "No one is able to match or come close to what BT are offering"

Just to add the rest of what he said:

It has been done deliberately to convert customers back for them, even if it is a loss-leading product in the short term.

So when people joining now start getting well into their 18-month contracts... who knows?

Lmao! That's not a recommendation. I remember reading that and believe it was a response to someone who was knocking another smaller service providers package.

I would be very surprised if he was "recommending" a service other than his own! Great headline though.

It's not about usage limits, it's about capacity. I'd like to hear some facts on that, but it doesn't seem that anybody has got the nerve to stick their head above the parapit at the moment?

Thanks for the reminder, Bill.

Many small providers and referral agents are charging way more than Infinity and locking in to long contracts

I am still waiting to hear how much the 240 and 600gig referenced in the thread will cost per month on alternative providerrs.

When we hear the prices we can times by the 12 and 18 month contracts and we will be able to see the whole life costs of the services.

My hunch is that xilo was right - nobody can match or come close to Infinity.

Edited by deleted (Mon 07-Mar-11 22:57:58)

In reply to a post by RandomJointer:

Many small providers and referral agents are charging way more than Infinity and locking in to long contracts

I am still waiting to hear how much the 240 and 600gig referenced in the thread will cost per month.

I'm wondering how much BT would charge an ISP who wanted to provide a 300GB/month FTTC product for their customers, all usable during peak hours...

Edited by billford (Mon 07-Mar-11 23:08:01)

Perhaps when we hear how much 240 and 600gig referenced in this thread would cost on alternative providers we can come to a judgement.

My opinion is that punters are looking for the best deal for their hard earned.

This is not about charity, It's about the best available deal punters can get for their hard earned.

Referral agent, Xilo is very clear, Infinity is the best deal out there at the moment.

Once Sky and TalkTalk come to the party, things could change.

In reply to a post by RandomJointer:

My opinion is that punters are looking for the best deal for their hard earned.

This is not about charity, It's about the best available deal punters can get for their hard earned.

Referral agent, Xilo is very clear, Infinity is the best deal out there at the moment.

I agree completely. But you said it- at the moment.

A big difference is that an IPStream ISP has a legal contract with BT for them to provide a certain amount of bandwidth, for which BT charge full rate, as any business would.

The rapidly increasing number of Infinity customers have to share whatever bandwidth is left over, and are stuck in a long contract... what's the logical outlook for the two sets of customers?


edit to add: Actually, I've just realised- that's probably why the fibre cabinet enablement dates keep getting put back.

Edited by billford (Mon 07-Mar-11 23:32:05)

This is not about charity, It's about the best available deal punters can get for their hard earned.

That's right. But does the best possible deal take into account the service and performance you might expect?

To me that means capacity vs throughput vs latency.

Xilo were referring purely to the cost.

The logical outcome is that Infinity hoover up the punters whilst Sky and TalkTalk dither and Virgin compete.

There will always be room for small high priced providers but they will remain small high priced providers.

In reply to a post by RandomJointer:

The logical outcome is that Infinity hoover up the punters whilst Sky and TalkTalk dither and Virgin compete.

You're evading the point- where does the bandwidth come from for all those Infinity punters on 40Mbps (possibly 60Mbps later) connections?

There will always be room for small high priced providers but they will remain small high priced providers.

Missing the point again- they have to pay the rates that BT charge for providing the adequate bandwidth that BT will simply allow to get congested for Infinity.