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Standard User orly
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 23-Mar-11 17:55:22
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Re: Dates changed yet again!


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This has always been a problem for BT/Openreach.

For us more inquisitive folk they can never release enough information but there are likely plenty of reasons why they keep some stuff hidden.

I'm sure quite a few people on here would love them to release data or have a spiffy website that maps all the cabinets, tells you how many subscribers, colour codes those getting upgraded and shows the date. Have a little popup that shows the progress.

Would be lovely.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 23-Mar-11 19:09:57
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In reply to a post by paul1360:
This afternoon I had an email from Ceri who is a Regional Manager based in South Wales and is responsible for delivery of BT Regions strategy locally, after I send an email to Ian Livingston


Well, blow me down with a feather. My date has just changed from 30th June (which it became last week) to ... tomorrow.

Is there a coincidence in the fact that I sent an email to Ian Livingstone too?
Standard User orly
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 23-Mar-11 19:15:06
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Dates can change to your advantage as well as your disadvantage.

Doubt any emails sent have anything to do with it.

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Standard User TheHorseman
(knowledge is power) Wed 23-Mar-11 21:20:10
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In reply to a post by paul1360:
In Bridgend the company that have been putting in the DSLAM's have put them in the wrong place and they have to be moved, so maybe thats your area also??.

iechyd da

You mean the FTTC cabs? The way they have installed the cabs here seems mostly random, I suppose they will get around to finishing off my cab eventually.

Edit: Just had a listen to my cab and it now has power, so hopefully not long now smile

BT -> Zen -> F2S -> Bulldog -> Be*
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Edited by TheHorseman (Wed 23-Mar-11 21:42:28)

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(deleted) Thu 24-Mar-11 14:46:10
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TheHorseman

Yes the Cabs were put in places close to the Electric supply and not near BT cabs which meant that sometimes they were to far from the Cab and also it then left BT having to do a lot of work that the other company had been paid for, Just spoke to a BT OR guy outside and he told me it's not just around here but in a lot of places in UK.
WWW. Can't answer that 1 sorry

iechyd da

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Standard User mrnelster
(member) Thu 24-Mar-11 17:05:02
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Power cabling is buried direct and telecoms are usually ducted, so it makes sense to keep the new cab closer to the existing one.

The only time I have seen power cables ducted is when they are tunnelled under an existing road, or when an adequate depth cannot be reached. In the latter case the ABS plastic duct acts as added protection. Not really acceptable as of the wiring regulations (BS7671) but the power utilities seem to get away with it under their own guidelines.

Knowing how it works is completely different to understanding how it works.
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(deleted) Thu 24-Mar-11 17:40:20
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I not saying that power cables have to be run in ducting at all. But I have seen power cables run in ducting,conduit etc many times, in fact have done it my self back in the day.
What I was saying is that I'd been told that the new cabs were put in places that made the job easier for the firm and not BT, hence in the wrong place.

iechyd da
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(deleted) Fri 25-Mar-11 07:52:43
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In reply to a post by paul1360:
I not saying that power cables have to be run in ducting at all. But I have seen power cables run in ducting,conduit etc many times, in fact have done it my self back in the day.
What I was saying is that I'd been told that the new cabs were put in places that made the job easier for the firm and not BT, hence in the wrong place.

iechyd da


Power cables are now normally ducted for new instalations. There is also a colur coding system. The main ones are listed below:-

Red - Electric Power

Orange - Telecoms

Yellow - Gas/oil

Green - Sewers & Drains

Blue - Drinking Water

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(deleted) Fri 25-Mar-11 08:40:13
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In reply to a post by Bob_s2:
Power cables are now normally ducted for new instalations. There is also a colur coding system. The main ones are listed below:-

Red - Electric Power

Orange - Telecoms

Yellow - Gas/oil

Green - Sewers & Drains

Blue - Drinking Water
When you use Wikipedia, check which country the page is applicable to...
In the UK, it's:
Telecoms - Grey
CATV - Green
Traffic Signalling - Purple
Rail Signalling - Orange
Gas - Yellow
Water - Blue
Electricity - Red (although it can also be black for LV).

Although it can perhaps be argued that what can come down CATV could be sewerage...

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Standard User mrnelster
(member) Sat 26-Mar-11 09:36:55
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I know. I was agreeing with you! wink

I was pointing out why your observation was valid. It makes more sense to fit cabs closer to the telecoms service.

Knowing how it works is completely different to understanding how it works.
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