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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Tue 12-Apr-11 19:48:20
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Re: FTTC Cab Connections


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The installation engineer you see only goes into the copper cab and is not allowed into the fibre cab. Higher grade engineers who commission the cards and the guys who do the initial copper install are the only ones who actually touch the fibre cab.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 12-Apr-11 22:32:14
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Re: FTTC Cab Connections


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In reply to a post by Anonymous:
The installation engineer you see only goes into the copper cab and is not allowed into the fibre cab. Higher grade engineers who commission the cards and the guys who do the initial copper install are the only ones who actually touch the fibre cab.
Exactly smile. That was my point. Thanks for confirming it, I was beginning to doubt my own belief. Some posters infer that the engineer did something in the FTTC cab, and they are mistaken.

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(deleted) Tue 12-Apr-11 22:39:13
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Re: FTTC Cab Connections


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An Openreach friend of mine tells me that all but a very select few are "restricted" from opening the FTTC cabinets due to, in no small part, "health and safety" reasons. I.E the sheer amount of voltage and current going through them.

I suspect it's a mix of that and of course the expensive hardware inside that's the reason.


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(deleted) Wed 13-Apr-11 00:49:19
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Re: FTTC Cab Connections


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Sorry I didn't mean to imply that. The van is always parked by the green cabinet (not the fibre one) which is just over the road.

I do know that the engineer who visited was FTTP trained and had undertaken installs of FTTP already, which take many hours to complete by all accounts.

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(deleted) Wed 13-Apr-11 09:51:01
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Re: FTTC Cab Connections


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Thinking about it when they started to run the fibre cables something happened to my old Cab (Think it was so rusty it fell apart) and a new 1 was fitted, So maybe with a new cab and new DSLAM has something to do with it???????

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(deleted) Wed 13-Apr-11 10:28:12
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I've found a VDSL2 document by Ericsson, with a Speed vs Distance graph that included measurements with crosstalk present. Its on page 8 (though page is marked #43).

The graph is titled "VDSL2 bit rates of different profiles. Real measurement in the presence of crosstalk from 20 VDSL2 systems."

That suggests 40Mbps out to around 200m, 33Mbps at 500m, and 22Mbps at 1km. The limiting point seems to be for UPstream at 1.5km.
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(moderator) Wed 13-Apr-11 10:45:00
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That's a pretty good fit to what I'm seeing here, thanks for that smile

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(deleted) Mon 18-Apr-11 14:52:59
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Just had a chat with OR Eng who was installing Infinity across the road from me, It was his 100th Connections, so half of my cab used up, still no change in speed average for the last 13 days 37.49Mb 8.50Mb. He then told me that that's it for now, so asked why and he told me that they only run 1 cable at first from the Dslam to the Cab for 100 connections, There are another 20 or so now waiting for the OR to run another cable so they can be connected up, That seems a bit silly to me??????

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Standard User Saltank
(member) Mon 18-Apr-11 18:49:13
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Magically, the FTTC checker now states that it's available (again). Two weeks ago it said it was, then vanished, now it says it's available again.

This is essentially for business premises, and I've got my own new line being installed on the 6th of May (via XLN), I'm wondering if I could place my order for FTTC immediately so that they could come and install it either on the same day or within a few days, as it's urgent and I can't wait any longer. Is this possible?

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 18-Apr-11 19:01:39
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Magically, the FTTC checker now states that it's available (again). Two weeks ago it said it was, then vanished, now it says it's available again.

This is essentially for business premises, and I've got my own new line being installed on the 6th of May (via XLN), I'm wondering if I could place my order for FTTC immediately so that they could come and install it either on the same day or within a few days, as it's urgent and I can't wait any longer. Is this possible?
It's possible to get a "Simultaneous Provide" of a line and ADSLx, so it may be possible with FTTC. It depends how well developed the new ordering system is, assuming it is new. I don't know.

However, even if it is possible, you have almost certainly missed the boat. On line + ADSLx you have to specify you want a SIM Provide at the time you order the line, and you are then given a LORN, Linked Order Reference Number. You then order your broadband with the LORN associated with it, if your chosen ISP has ever heard of them and their system can handle it.

It is impossible to get a LORN after the line is ordered frown. You have to wait until it is installed so that you have the phone number to order against.

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