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(deleted) Sat 07-May-11 22:44:28
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Re: Very Interesting Document Re: FTTC Cabs


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For all I know, if it says FTTC/P on your list then that means you can get both FTTC and FTTP if it's in your area however if it says FTTP then that means you can only get FTTP as they are not installing FTTC cabinets in your area. You can also get ADSL obviously & ADSL2 if your exchange has got that enabled.

That's just what I'm aware of - someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Standard User bgriffiths
(member) Sat 07-May-11 23:19:43
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Re: Very Interesting Document Re: FTTC Cabs


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The exchange is EAMAD, one of the winning "race" exchanges. Of the 7 cabinets listed 5 show as "FTTP" the other 2 as "FTTC".

Openreach engineer who was here a couple of weeks back talked about us getting Infinity next year, and mentioned there was only one cab in the village, which seems to tie in with the postcode mapping on the spreadsheet. That cab shows as FTTP. Village is 3.5-4.5km by road from exchange. Would they serve that distance direct from the exchange then?

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(deleted) Sat 07-May-11 23:26:16
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Re: Very Interesting Document Re: FTTC Cabs


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When the Openreach engineer was out - did he have to do any work externally? Did he mention that he had to go to the cabinet to fix anything?

You can't really say for sure as ADSL speeds is via the exchange, not the cabinet whereas FTTC is by the cabinet. If you insert your postcode in there, does it show FTTC/FTTP and what is the percentage of lines on your postcode?


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Standard User bgriffiths
(member) Sat 07-May-11 23:41:10
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Re: Very Interesting Document Re: FTTC Cabs


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Yes he was fiddling around at the cabinet trying to fix our adsl.

Postcode shows FTTP, percentage of lines 100, uplift 9.45 (all the postcodes on that cab show FTTP, uplift 9.45)

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(deleted) Sat 07-May-11 23:46:15
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Re: Very Interesting Document Re: FTTC Cabs


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Nope then it's not an exchange line - I don't think FTTP would be that more expensive, isn't it the same price as normal FTTC? What prices does BT Infinity quote you when you pop that into their checker?
Standard User bgriffiths
(member) Sun 08-May-11 00:11:23
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Re: Very Interesting Document Re: FTTC Cabs


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BT checker hasn't caught up with us yet! Neither has the Infinity availability map.
Can't see any general info on the BT site other than the "up to 40mbps" service which is fttc. Only references to fttp I can find are to the trials

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(deleted) Sun 08-May-11 02:52:25
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Re: Very Interesting Document Re: FTTC Cabs


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Plusnet are running FTTP trials too - and while their FTTC trials have changed to active service, the FTTP trials are still going on.

My knowledge of FTTP vs FTTC is limited to the head honcho's statement that FTTC and FTTP will be mutually exclusive - an area will get one or the other. I presume, from the look of these documents, that the "area" can be as small as an individual cabinet area.
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(deleted) Sun 08-May-11 03:08:18
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Re: Very Interesting Document Re: FTTC Cabs


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In reply to a post by Anonymous:
I wondered if - depending on where the DACS box is - a telephony service could still be run through it, and as the rest of the line splices off to the fibre cab the DACS line could still have the fibre service since it "skips" the bit where the DACS box is. If that makes sense smile

If the DACS remote unit sits on the E-side of the cabinet, then I guess FTTC would manage just fine. The ones further out in the network would prevent FTTC working.

In reply to a post by Anonymous:
From what I'd read, @ 1.5km D side FTTC can only manage 22Mbps at best based on VDSL1 and a good quality copper line, which we don't have, and some D-sides are circa 3km+.

It could be less, once crosstalk is factored in. And looking at this Ericsson document , I'd say it is the Upstream that limits us more at distances > 1.5km.
Standard User bgriffiths
(member) Sun 08-May-11 09:25:56
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Re: Very Interesting Document Re: FTTC Cabs


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OK starting to make some sense now. So FTTP is not yet really out there "in the wild", retail product pricing probably not yet finally sorted. Maybe they will offer an entry level speed capped service which equates to FTTC speeds, as well as a full bore product. Either way I suspect there won't be many isps offering fttp by early next year, so might have to grit teeth and sign up to BT / Plusnet

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Does anybody have a key to the phases?

My exchnage is phase 6a. ?

TIA
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