In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

If BT are to be forced to announce the entire roll-out plan, what will they be given in return for this information? As a PLC they have a duty to their shareholders.

If they had a history of meeting their roll-out schedules, a long-term plan would give the appearance of progress or growth. It tells the public and their competitors they are moving up. This suggests future growth and encourages more shareholder investment and/or confidence.

Only imho of course.

They have been presentations of road maps, if I recall at various meetings around the Digital Britain debate, and agreemenet with Virgin Media at these that commercially two thirds coverage is feasible with no extra help. That is the long term plan, short and sweet.

If a council refuses to let BT open a hole to fix a collapsed duct in a road for a few weeks or months, then that can through a spanner in the works for an exchange that may be miles away.

Remember back in 2000, ADSL roll-out was on just 400 exchanges, and it was not till 2004 did coverage really get big. How long since the first FTTC went live?

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Remember back in 2000, ADSL roll-out was on just 400 exchanges, and it was not till 2004 did coverage really get big. How long since the first FTTC went live?

Really? I've had ADSL for 11 years

No one else knew what it was at the time and thought I was getting confused between KB and Kb when stating my download speed

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

If a council refuses to let BT open a hole to fix a collapsed duct in a road for a few weeks or months, then that can through a spanner in the works for an exchange that may be miles away.

One example around here: BT needed to bring a lorry in to offload, at most a 1 hour task ... and BT would have done it in the very early morning with manual Stop/Go signs, but the council said no and insisted on a short term road closure, with lights &c and a 13 week notification period.

1998 a small trial area in parts of London. Earlier video only trials in the Colchester area

April 2000 first commercial trials, which is 11 years and a couple of months ago.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

1998 a small trial area in parts of London. Earlier video only trials in the Colchester area

April 2000 first commercial trials, which is 11 years and a couple of months ago.

Yep, Exeter was enabled mid-2000.

If I remember rightly it was £50 PCM for 576K, plus about £150 install - the engineer repalced our old LJU socket for an NTE5, SSFP, and a dedicated Cat-5 RJ11 extension in the study.

To a horrid green Alcatel USB modem that was about as stable as a drunk nun.

In reply to a post by izools:

Yep, Exeter was enabled mid-2000.

Ha... NTL (CableTel) in Guildford area launched cable modems in summer 1999, and I got onto the system in Sept 1999. 512k download / 128k upload.

I looked at BT's ADSL offering, but it was as you say USB Alcatel, so went with ethernet.

Nowadays I'd not touch VM in any area where I can get 10mbps or higher DSL

Had a sweet connection, 2Meg connection from Demon with ethernet router. Guinea pigs really, as the network would shut down for maintenance some nights.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

In reply to a post by izools:

Yep, Exeter was enabled mid-2000.

Ha... NTL (CableTel) in Guildford area launched cable modems in summer 1999, and I got onto the system in Sept 1999. 512k download / 128k upload.

I looked at BT's ADSL offering, but it was as you say USB Alcatel, so went with ethernet.

Nowadays I'd not touch VM in any area where I can get 10mbps or higher DSL

Interesting what you say about VM - my new flat I can get ADSL 2+ or Virgin and I've opted for Virgin; and get a steady 50 Down / 5 Up all day every day; no problems atall. Exeter had severe capacity probelms until about 18 months ago and since then (touch wood...) it's been flawless.

Should be able to get FTTP (yes, P) by the end of September though; OR have already added a fibre manifold to the BT manhole outside the flats I've just moved to. I would imagine FTTC would be pretty good, too, as the cab is just outside and the wiring in the block is proper CAT5, not the usual CW1308 cable OR use.

Yeaaaaah

Edited by deleted (Wed 27-Jul-11 09:05:23)

I think with the DOCSIS3.0 overlay they have capacity problems are significantly reduced (for now...). I notice very little slowdown on my VM 50meg connection at home.