Yep, seen them here in Shrewsbury too. The work on the cab in question appears finished ,but it isn't humming. Samknows has March 2012 as rfs for Shrewsbury. The wholesale checker doesn't mention fibre yet either. I think it's just an Openreach advertisement....

I have long complained that BT don't give out much believable information about cabinets coming into service where they come some days, weeks or months after the exchange itself.

If BT are going to start putting adverts onto the cabinets themselves, you'd have hoped that they would have added a date on there too!

In reply to a post by xysdfds:

You appear to be flying off the handle on this. Possibly into the stratosphere.

Yes. Sadly Roberto's NOU does seem to go MSO whenever anyone with clue posts. Either that or someone has peed in Roberto, the oracle of UK broadband's slippers.

Regrettably, I would expect Roberto's personal and non-factual attacks to result in a short holiday from the forums. As this kind of personal , off topic attack on fellow correspondents is clearly against forum rules.

I would ask the mods to go easy on Roberto's rants that are clearly against the boards rules as at least 20% of Roberto's posts are factual and offer help to punters,

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

If you have any evidence whatsoever that the likes of Zen, IDNet, AAISP, Newnet and Entanet, to mention just the obvious ones, are not customers of BT Wholesale in exactly the same way as BT Broadband, Plusnet, Eclipse and all the others there apart from TalkTalk, please post it.

Thanks for raising this. Now you come to mention it. Zen, AAISP, Newnet (Timico) and Entanet, amongst others, are mentioned on the Openreach micro site as 'buy it now' suppliers. Whereas IDNET are not.

Perhaps someone with links to IDnet could clear up why IDnet are not mentioned on the Openreach Micro Site as their absence from the list is curious and possibly unequivalent behaviour by Openreach or an oversight that Openreach will be eager to correct.

Edited by deleted (Sun 11-Dec-11 20:54:01)

Please supply a link to a list, as requested, and also a list of ISPs you suspect to be reselling someone else's service, (other than the known and declared resellers of Entanet, Be and TalkTalk), otherwise your original post's uselessness is confirmed. Apart from its first line it was totally off topic and gave no information to anyone. Impossible to know why you posted it. You don't seem to wish to justify it.

Openreach has many sites. You must have one specifically in mind, and it is you raised this off-topic issue with zero information provided by you. What for?

As for naming IDNet out of the, (I believe still over 100 other providers), you are just being ridiculous. Do you doubt they are a direct customer of BT Wholesale and Openreach like the few you have given us? Agenda please?

In reply to a post by RandomJointer:

at least 20% of Roberto's posts are factual and offer help to punters

Compared to what percentage of your own I wonder... at a guess a single digit would suffice, with plenty of room for expansion.

I would also recommend that you provide links to back up your claims rather than relying on innuendo¹. Action has had to be taken in the past because of that habit of yours, and rest assured it will be taken again if you persist.

In other words RJ- watch it.




¹ Apart from in FC of course, where it's expected of you.

Edited by billford (Sun 11-Dec-11 23:49:42)

Absolutely perfectly valid points raised. Totally on-topic and talking about Openreach 'Fibre Broadband is here' marketing. As opposed to the personal attacks by Roberto and yourself.

The Openreach on-site advertising and drop cards are referring interested parties to a website that links to providers offering the service. It is a perfectly valid question to ask to why some 'providers' are not referenced.

It is very disappointing to see correspondents and particularly moderators try to stifle debate and threatening bans when correspondents ask valid questions.

I would advise punters to be extremely cautious of advice offered by Roberto and Billford as they not only have no industry experience, they may also have some kind of agenda.

Edited by deleted (Mon 12-Dec-11 21:07:25)

In reply to a post by RandomJointer:

I would advise punters to be extremely cautious of advice offered by Roberto and Billford as they not only have no industry experience, they may also have some kind of agenda.

That's just earned you some time off to reflect on your general attitude towards posting on this bbs.

Amazing unfair considering Roberto's stance toward RJ. Heavy handed and double standards are obviously rife here.

Two full days after RJ's initial post, which cast unwarranted slurs on some unspecified ISPs because they do not appear on an unspecified list on an unspecified site, after having been asked at least twice for a link to the site he refers to and a list of the ISPs he considers dubious, he finally manages to say that the Openreach poster/card or whatever has a reference to a site. He still does not post it. I assume because it is of the kind I suggested in my first reply to him, paid-for adverts.

Pray find a reason for his not posting the link in the initial post. As it stands, it appears to have nothing to do with the thread.

Yes my response was perhaps a little OTT. Given his past form and history most people here would understand my reaction, but that is no excuse for me. Just a statement of why I reacted that way.

If you are newish around here, I suggest you check all his (non Free Chat) posts for the last year. If you are not, I suggest you log in and put your nick where your opinion is .

He is the one with the agenda.

Edited by RobertoS (Tue 13-Dec-11 10:34:07)

These posters are put up in some areas to stir up interest in the FTTC product. Posters on these boards often forget that they are a little more 'clued up' about such things.

Openreach is just trying get the average Joe keen to ask their ISP if they can have an FTTC based service, therefore helping the long process of recouping some of it's investment.

Why some areas get these posters, and others don't I have no idea. Last time I saw them was back in March in Berkhamstead.