Yeah. I'd imagine an FTTP roll-out kicking off in the 2020s. Well under way by the 2030s at the latest. I base that on the progression in speed for my home connection:

1999 - 38kb/s modem.
2000 - 49kb/s modem.
2001 - 64kb/s/128kb/s Home Highway
2002 - 512kb/s ADSL
2006 - 8Mb/s ADSL Max
2008 - 13Mb/s ADSL2+, Be
2012 - 33Mb/s FTTC. BT checker estimate for March.

That implies another step change around 2014/2016 but FTTP would presumably be a big leap.

A BT estimate of 33Mb/s means you're likely to get 40Mb/s.

Later in 2012, the maximum speed on FTTC will increase to 80MB/s - with further increases possible including the planned introduction of vectoring in future.

So BT can still do quite a lot with their current infrastructure without FTTP.

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Sunil

Have you checked the PS3 can play HD material over the local LAN? e.g. wireless is often an issue

Have watched a number of films on Netflix with no issues, other than a crash of the Xbox client once. Thats on an ISP running at 6Meg, and one people say to avoid.

As yet nope, the areas with FTTP are not distinctly DEL properties, some may covered, but it is a good mixture.

In Cornwall FTTP and FTTC were discussed with a different solution for DEL, but technology not announced.

Handing directly to BT would break EU laws, hence the lengthy BDUK process, that some say will still mean the money will mainly end up with BT

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Handing directly to BT would break EU laws, hence the lengthy BDUK process, that some say will still mean the money will mainly end up with BT

sounds about right, we are stuck with that awful company no matter what we do.

I do have a choice now , we got a company that is doing wireless broadband and it is not a bad price and gives pretty good speed.

That means I could get rid of my phone line.

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It is ok people saying about all these services that is going to rely on fibre, like netflix and online back up, not that I would really use online back up. Back it up on a external hard drive, then even if a internet goes belly up, you still got it to hand.

I feel a lot more comfortable using an online backup service as well as my NAS drive to backup my photos.

Lightning, fire, burglary are three things that spring to mind.

All my important photos are stored on a hard drive at my mates place, I also got them stored on a memory card that is also stored away from here.

i would not trust Google with my pictures or any other cloud company to be honest.

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Have you checked the PS3 can play HD material over the local LAN? e.g. wireless is often an issue

Oh agreed, mine is hard wired to the router, as luckily they're in the same room

Have watched a number of films on Netflix with no issues, other than a crash of the Xbox client once. Thats on an ISP running at 6Meg, and one people say to avoid.

I had no problems last night watching in "high quality / HD" so I'm chalking up the previous issues to "new day trials".

To call Openreach awful is a little too far. All big companies have inertia and BT Group has a real mixture of push forward fast versus steady slow progress people.

If BT were awful we would have a much more expensive product with a lot fewer options on it.

The advantage to BT is that generally you can get a basic level of service anywhere in the UK.

Arr right, in that case I don't know then. I wondered why York up the road got FTTP as I couldn't imagine they were all DEL's maybe its just more suitable for some areas than others in terms of exchange placement etc

Around here it seems like BT is targeting new-builds for FTTP.

My road has FTTC (only one so far in the village), but the nearby newish housing estate (which presumably has entirely underground utilities, whereas in my road electricity/phone are overground?) is getting FTTP. Nothing yet for the exchange-only lines.

I live in Cornwal (where it seems to be that more FTTP is planned than anywhere else) l in a reasonably small village.