In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Based on your take, there is also nothing wrong with people removing the NTE5 to replace the backplate area with something they would prefer.

No idea, but to be honest I have no interest in that question, I'm only interested in removal of the modem. Feel free to start your own thread if you would like to discuss the NTE5.

Thanks for offering to talk to Openreach, much appreciated but whatever info they give you, please ask for links to something written down, more hearsay won't clarify anything

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

try this link to it on google

Reveals also that if you have the data extension kit, the warranty lasts 12 months, after which that is yours

FTTC modem becomes the active demarcation point

Andrew -- You link does not show up in the post due to the inadvertent inclusion of a space between the url= and the http. Would you care to correct it? As it stands, your post is pretty pointless.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

To revert, I think all you have to do is to go back to factory settings by a hard reset.

No, that is incorrect. You will need to re-install the original firmware. A "hard reset" will still leave the firmware with access available.

In reply to a post by burakkucat:

As it stands, your post is pretty pointless.

Even with a full link http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=openreach%2... shown as intended, the post is pointless as all the doc does is talk about what NTE is, which is not is dispute.

Also gents, whether or not factory resets restore firmware is not really at issue here, please feel free to start another thread if that is of interest

Edited by deleted (Sun 22-Apr-12 14:19:09)

http://tinyurl.com/89ge5oe

is pretty much the only reseller T&C that specifies that the openreach modem remains the property of...


the absence of any qualification of ownership is a bit of mystery from all other T&Cs, even if there is a self-install coming up... there is always a engineer install option available.

The actual proof may well be behind the CP interfaces so do not hold your breath for a precise wording that meets your goal

I would add if the Openreach modem was considered optional post activation, then providers would probably have already swapped it over

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

In reply to a post by tommy45:

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

It is also a fact that by the time you have been out of your house for ten minutes, travelling to another location, you will have broken a myriad of laws, of which your ignorance "is no excuse".

Fact is it? utter twaddle , i have traveled to lots of places without breaking the law as I'm sure plenty of others have too

"Ignorance of the law is no excuse".

I didn't imply or say that it was ,

Have to admit it, this has been the most pointless and boring thread I have read for along time

In reply to a post by smurf46:

It doesn't need to be put "in black and white". Its a common law principle that if you receive someone else's property...<snip>

That does still not preclude somebody from updating the firmware. They are not breaking anything and it is reasonable to expect to find something in black and white.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

I think the question is this: Where does it say you can't use your own modem or load different firmware onto the OR modem?

I think the answer is: Nowhere.

Exactly. That is the whole point of the OP. Many people are giving examples not applicable to this case - especially as they are using regulations written in black and white to make their point!