Bwhaha! Have you considered the Diplomatic Service, MHC?! Or the PR dept of BT?!
cheers, a

80mb is fine, stop being greedy and be grateful you receive wonderful speeds.

In reply to a post by asbokid:

In theory, if Openreach was to offer a Profile 30a service (up to 200Mbps downstream), it would require four times the current concentration of street cabinets. So Profile 30a is probably only viable where take-up will be high, e.g. in very affluent areas like Kensington & Chelsea.

He he - not if the K&C local council has anything to do with it - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18277561

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Ooops - I see already mentioned but I'll leave the post standing for the link

Edited by kwikbreaks (Mon 04-Jun-12 10:29:19)

In reply to a post by Moradin:

The subscriber linecards (H831VDSH) which Openreach is currently installing in the Huawei SmartAX MA5616 DSLAMs are limited to Profile 17a (up to 100Mbps downstream) [1]

Aha,. i see....


Well, still a wise business move to offer it, if the kit supports it.

But the question is how many people would even be able to get over the 80meg.

Currently it could only be 30-50k of which not even all of them may not even want to be uncapped.

As said above offering a service of which only a few thousand people may even take up just months before FTTP on demnad is launched seems like a waste of time and money from OR's point of view.

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

As said above offering a service of which only a few thousand people may even take up just months before FTTP on demnad is launched seems like a waste of time and money from OR's point of view.

But then it's likely that a lot more people would pay a few quid a month for something which requires essentially zero work by OR than are likely to pay the installation fees for FTTP on Demand...

Seems like an obvious little earner for OR to me.

In reply to a post by billford:

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

As said above offering a service of which only a few thousand people may even take up just months before FTTP on demnad is launched seems like a waste of time and money from OR's point of view.

But then it's likely that a lot more people would pay a few quid a month for something which requires essentially zero work by OR than are likely to pay the installation fees for FTTP on Demand...

Seems like an obvious little earner for OR to me.

As some stage the bandwidth in the backhaul is going to need upgrading!

Are you paid more than the guys who plan BT's marketing? If not, why not?

I think BT should take me on as a consultant. They obviously don't know what people want. (at some ridiculous salary !!)

A comparison, would be to build a 1 mile circular go-kart track, with 500cc engines in the karts.
then limit them to 25mph....

If your kit supports 100mb, then offer that as the highest speed, if your backhaul has to support 330mb anyway, you lose nothing, the customer gains very little, but more cash for the ISP.

How many people would use it, was the question posed. well, how many cabinets x how people live within 100m of the cabinet i would answer. who knows. its a fair number for sure.

I'd be more interested in the upstream cap being raised. IIRC the limit if you have a very short line to the cab is about 35M. I could probably find more use for that than more downstream bandwidth. I really have no use for 80Mbit at the moment aside from willy waving, heck 40mbit even - if I'm getting something big enough to benefit from more then 20mbit I generally set it to download overnight when it'll be there in the morning just the same if it downloaded at 20mbit or 80.

The cap will be lifted as another marketing gimmick, when they need another push. But you might have to wait for 30a profiles before they do that.

Most VDSL routers/modems do not come with more than 100/10 Ethernet. So even if you connect at 130Mb with little overheads you won't see those kind of speeds in real life. It's just like BT though to cap their products. 20Mb upload is great.. But the profile allows for upto 30+Mb as is being demonstrated by other FTTC providers using 17a.

In reply to a post by lockyatlrg:

80mb is fine, stop being greedy and be grateful you receive wonderful speeds.

It's not about being greedy, it's about seeing what you're line is capable of and being limited for no apparent reason. I'm sure some would pay extra to be totally unrestricted.

BT always start off slow and plod along until their is a marketable reason to lift their artificially low limits. Which is a small part of the reason I avoid them like the plague.