In reply to a post by StephenTodd:

Also depends on your use of p2p and of upload. If you use p2p a lot, BT (for who I have just opted) appear to be useless. If you want higher upload speeds, Sky will charge £30 per month, if they offer the service at all (they don't for me). My BT upload speed should be 19Mb, Sky could not offer better than 2Mb here.

Sky Fibre Unlimited Pro should be available to order as an upgrade through the website later on this month but for the time being it can ordered over the phone which I only discovered the other day after I had ordered the 40/2 service.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

In reply to a post by Adsl24:

Catch 22 there... cheap but unlimited usually means you pay peanuts, you get peanuts

Blame Talk Talk and sky for that, they tell people they get unlimited for peanuts, which they may do, but then they block, slow down torrents and got a naff customer service.

And long may TT/bt continue to block or throttle p2p bandwidth rapists. P2p rapists have bankrupted ISPs...remember the e7even debacle?

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

And long may TT/bt continue to block or throttle p2p bandwidth rapists. P2p rapists have bankrupted ISPs...remember the e7even debacle?

They offer the unlimited usage, if they can't cope then don't offer it or give people some idea what unlimited is.

Not everyone uses p2p 24/7 and yet they still get throttled, it is not just P2P, certainly with Bt anyway, I went through months of Bt traffic management stopping me form using Iplayer and even you tube.

Never again.

In reply to a post by Adsl24:

Catch 22 there... cheap but unlimited usually means you pay peanuts, you get peanuts

Except, you pay peanuts to Sky and you get a pretty darn good service.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

In reply to a post by Adsl24:

Catch 22 there... cheap but unlimited usually means you pay peanuts, you get peanuts

Blame Talk Talk and sky for that, they tell people they get unlimited for peanuts, which they may do, but then they block, slow down torrents and got a naff customer service.

So why is Sky the only mainstream provider that doesnt block anything in anyway?
So why is sky customer support for broadband easily amongst the best again, amonst the mainstream?

dont you have to take skys phone package if you want to order i would rather stay with bt.

In reply to a post by project_x_uk:

dont you have to take skys phone package if you want to order i would rather stay with bt.

You mean stay with "bt retail", you will be with BT openreach whether your phone package is with sky or BT Retail.

Edited by deleted (Wed 13-Jun-12 21:42:02)

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

In reply to a post by Adsl24:

Catch 22 there... cheap but unlimited usually means you pay peanuts, you get peanuts

Blame Talk Talk and sky for that, they tell people they get unlimited for peanuts, which they may do, but then they block, slow down torrents and got a naff customer service.

TalkTalk LLU Plus Unlimited up to 24 meg package

Price: £25 pm
Line rental included: Yes
International Calls inluded: Yes
TRULY Unlimited downloads: Yes
P2P Throttling: No (on static ip connections only)
Static ip address: yes (on request)
fastpath profile available for gamers/voip: Yes v
Support: forum



ADSL24 - C&W LLU Unlimited up to 24 meg package

Price: £20 pm
Line rental included: No
International Calls inluded: No
TRULY Unlimited downloads: Yes
P2P Throttling: No
Static ip address: yes
fastpath profile available for gamers/voip: No
Support: phone & email


zyborg, like me, you could get a lot more for your money with TalkTalk , yet still have a high quality broadband connection (and even better than C&W if you're a gamer and/or use VOIP a lot)

Edited by deleted (Wed 13-Jun-12 23:56:07)

In reply to a post by gazter:

So why is Sky the only mainstream provider that doesnt block anything in anyway?
So why is sky customer support for broadband easily amongst the best again, amonst the mainstream?

sky customer support is not that good, unless it been improved since I was with them for Tv. if I was going for a large provider then sky would be the one i would go for. but I still think they will block or slow down peer to peer.

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

TalkTalk LLU Plus Unlimited up to 24 meg package

Price: £25 pm
Line rental included: Yes
International Calls inluded: Yes
TRULY Unlimited downloads: Yes
P2P Throttling: No (on static ip connections only)
Static ip address: yes (on request)
fastpath profile available for gamers/voip: Yes v
Support: forum



ADSL24 - C&W LLU Unlimited up to 24 meg package

Price: £20 pm
Line rental included: No
International Calls inluded: No
TRULY Unlimited downloads: Yes
P2P Throttling: No
Static ip address: yes
fastpath profile available for gamers/voip: No
Support: phone & email


zyborg, like me, you could get a lot more for your money with TalkTalk , yet still have a high quality broadband connection (and even better than C&W if you're a gamer and/or use VOIP a lot)

Don't quote prices i know what price talk Talk offers their service for and even if Talk Talk paid me to use their service i would still refuse.

As for the fast path on C&W, or the lack of it, a mate of mine uses vivaciti on the C&W network and is a avid games player, normally MMO games, what ever they are, but I do know that they need a good ping, I built his computer to his specs to play games, that is mainly all it is used for and yet he don't have any complaints about the lack of fastpath. Ok having 16 megabits may help, but a high ping would still cause problems.

Forum support is fine if you got broadband, but Talk Talk support via phone is awful, worse than Bt is that is possible.

i am not interested in international calls, I call one person in the U.S and TBH I don't want my line rental included with my broadband, that is why when i left BT, i changed over to a a different phone company.

Talk Talk uses line management, with the problems I had with BT, no way would I go for it. C&W don't have any line management, so what I connect is what I connect at, if I change the SNr on my router/modem, the system don't try and change it back up.

i am not a gamer, never have been and never will be, no point in using voip if I still got a phone line.

anyway i am 99% certain now that I am going for a wireless service that is here, that way I can get rid of my phone line and say good by to Bt naff copper wires that are falling apart.




Talk Talk and Bt are in the same mould,