Well if BT actually new how to run a project they would be getting all this information in any case. If they do not they have not got a hope of running a project properly

BT really do not seem to have a cliuse as to manageing resources. How an earth they can slip exchanges 9 months is beyond credibility.

The constant excuses that it is complex just does not realy wash. Housebuilder probably have greater challanges and if they slipt a site 9 months heads would probably roll.

Housebuildrs have to deal with Councils, Utility companies, materials suppliers, sub contractors etc etc and they have to manage that and stick to a schedule.

I suspect if a site manager turned around 7 days before a site was due to complete and told his management that it would now be 3 moths late would be in for a very uncormfortable time. With BT anything seems to go. Having a monopoly seems to play a great part in it and there still seems to be a lot of the old nationalised company attitudes within BT.


No one expects the BT schedules not to change but they at least should be realistic and not fiction

Agreed.

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BT really do not seem to have a cliuse as to manageing resources. How an earth they can slip exchanges 9 months is beyond credibility.

The constant excuses that it is complex just does not realy wash. Housebuilder probably have greater challanges and if they slipt a site 9 months heads would probably roll.

Housebuildrs have to deal with Councils, Utility companies, materials suppliers, sub contractors etc etc and they have to manage that and stick to a schedule.

I suspect if a site manager turned around 7 days before a site was due to complete and told his management that it would now be 3 moths late would be in for a very uncormfortable time. With BT anything seems to go. Having a monopoly seems to play a great part in it and there still seems to be a lot of the old nationalised company attitudes within BT.


No one expects the BT schedules not to change but they at least should be realistic and not fiction

That's what happens when you axe 35,000 jobs just before there is a substantial demand for new broadband connections. I had to wait over 3 months to have a new phone line installed.

Well if BT actually new how to run a project they would be getting all this information in any case. If they do not they have not got a hope of running a project properly

Yeah, and I bet they can't spell 'knew' either !

All very well but the 3 monthly dates that we see are obviously aren't the actual Open Reach plan.

Since this is a multiple concurrent plan with multiple end points rather than a "we will start now, lock ourselves in a room for three years and at the end switch on all cabinets" it is obviously better for OR and its subcontractors to "do the work able to be done" rather than hang around until able to complete exchange a before moving on to exchange b.

If they plan to enable 10 exchanges in a month a lot of the time it won't matter which 10 so work that slips can be made up elsewhere.

The problem is that they seem to have published ALL of the PCPs that MAY be enabled by the end of a quarter when they know it will never be achieved but they can't know at the start of the quarter which ones will be.

In many ways they would be better off just stating "this line is planned for FTTC" and not quoting any dates.

But then we would complain that we want dates!

They could give updates every month instead of every 3 ,
but every 3 mths is fine as long as the info is accurate(well more accurate than is currently) but that's a monopoly for you

Yes, OpenReach updated their list earlier in the week and my exchange was also put back until September. It is not really suprising as the end of June is Friday and if your exchange isn't live by now it isn't going to be done 'By June'.

Crowborough (the exchange I'm on) at least has activity and there are cabinets springing up all over the place. The estimate is late July / early August from the person I was talking to.

Steve

I'd rather have no information is better than inaccurate information on dates. Like you said advise that FTTC is coming but don't specify a date until it is accurate.

Nit picker!