So its trees and reduced width of the pavement that was the objection.

Looking at pictures of proprosal, it is next to pavement, so no width reduction, but close to junction, but on the left hand side, so should not obscure vision for traffic and pedestrians crossed.

Moving cabinet back further onto grass may mean root damage is more likely.

A possible option is a re-shell of the existing green cab, with the active part housed in a taller cabinet, but generally less capacity for VDSL2 lines, and may increase cost.

There was even a "Scheme of Work" from the contractors saying how they deal with trees.

The council really do sound incompetent.

The pictures were fairly clear about where it would be sited - on the grass, not the footpath and also showed the actual footpath which was not narrow at all.

I can guess someone has raised, the trees and pavement as a thing to check, which then got translated without much translation into a rejection.

Openreach probably is more interested in doing other areas by now.

my postcode is CO2 7US

ive now registered with BT for someone to look into this again

ive received an email saying they will get in touch within a week

the new councillor helping me has offered to print leaflets for all the residents here to sign if required

Edited by deleted (Fri 06-Jul-12 14:52:54)

got this from Openreach website:

Planning permission is not usually required, with the exception of sites in national parks, conservation areas and other areas of special interest. Under Part 24 of the Town & Country Planning Act BT as a Code Operator has deemed planning permission to install Cabinets so no notification at the planning stage is required in most cases under this piece of legislation. However if the Cabinet is to be installed in Article 1 (5) land i.e. National Parks , Conservation Areas etc then a Prior Notification application must be sent to the Local Planning Authority (LPA). They then decide if the application has to go through the process and if it does they have 56 calendar days in which to consult interested parties and consider the application. The LPA can refuse the application on the grounds of siting and appearance only. However if no written rejection has been received within the 56 days installation can commence. Under Para 5 of the Electronic Communications Code (Conditions and Restrictions) Regulations 2003 BT must notice the LPA of our intention to install any Cabinet. The LPA do not have the power to veto any site but they can request conditions to be attached to the installation and they have up to one calendar month to do this. However BT can reject these conditions if they feel they are not reasonably practicable. In order to install the Cabinets BT must notice the Highway Authority via the New Roads & Street Works Noticing system when they intend to work in the street. This allows the Highway Authority to ensure there is no clash with other Utilities who may be working in the same area and so avoid any unnecessary congestion.

so it seems the council really did a bad job here

In reply to a post by don0301:

my postcode is CO2 7US

100% of lines for that post code are on P20 as you suspected . Phase 8a

I'm at work at the moment but I can post a list later of the post codes supplied and you can then canvas the houses if you want to.

thanks for all help and advise

yes that would be great, thanks

Had a spare ten minutes - quiet for a Friday afternoon

Here's a map of the postcodes covered by P20 - if you scroll to the bottom of the map you can download it into Google Earth. Note the map will expire if it is not accessed for 60 days, so you may want to save a local copy.

And heres a list of postcodes, you can get a list of addresses for these postcodes, follow the guide here although it looks quite straight forward with the whole estate being covered, and possibly a bit of the industrial estate, although that could also be an error in the data.

Postcode Percent Lines

CO34HG 2% I think this is an error in the database - it's too far away.
CO27UP 83%
CO27WD 87%
CO27UW 92%
CO27UH 92%
CO27US 100%
CO27WA 100%
CO27UN 100%
CO27UF 100%
CO27UE 100%
CO27UG 100%
CO27UT 100%
CO27TT 100%
CO27WB 100%

Edited by R0NSKI (Fri 06-Jul-12 16:19:48)

As I said - 56 days had expired on 25th October and BT could have started work then. The council were lazy and incompetent and only got their refusal out a month later.