Their is still alot of work going on in Tadley on a few cabinets still- wont finish till 18 of August and their is more cabs planned for September.

As for the exchange not sure if the work is complete their or not.

if cab in installed and in delay there could be a duct problem, its blocked or needs highways to apprve a new route, it could be awating power or the cost of providing power is prohibibitve and therefore cab does nt get lit and made RFS, There are a host of reasons,

PS 2.5bn Roll out rollout out now above 10m homes (May 2012) and will complete a year earler that planned by 2014 -- using no public money and still pleople complain

Thats daft though. It is still a BT line it is just that they pay Sky the line rental. THe line is stil owned and maintain by BT

I agree, but the way their systems work can't understand that fact

Its maintained by Openreach, not BT Wholesale, which is who all the ISP's purchase service through. So whilst we can perform an address lookup on Openreach's PSTN systems and clearly see that an LLU MPF line is existent, it will not be recognised in the BT Wholesale systems and its not a BT Wholesale line, but an MPF line with an LLU operator.

That's why people on LLU SMPF can still use the BT Wholesale checker.

Crazy, I know, and confuses end users no end.

In reply to a post by Bob_s2:

Currently the BT rolloiut is running heavilly behind schedule. If we take the lastest schedule there are a 172 exchanges listed as due for completion by the 30th September. Assuming 79 working days in that quarter it means they have to average 2.2 exchanges a day. To date they have averaged 0.6.

Don't worry about it, people will I'm sure jump in and tell you that it's fine and to go easy on BT if they haven't already.

As you rightly point out though these are BT's dates and if they can't keep to them they shouldn't have supplied them, simple as that.

For the poster who mentioned that they didn't have to do this, yes they did. They were years behind most of their peers in starting an NGA rollout and are playing catch up to compete with Virgin, their catch up being a relatively modest almost universal FTTC with FTTP rather cleverly supplied 'on demand' rather than to dense urban areas as their peers may have done.

BT are late to the game and have made huge amounts of noise, doesn't change that their coverage is spotty, their claim of coverage is quite carefully framed as covering exchanges that pass a certain amount of premises rather than the actual amount of premises that can take the FTTC service, and they've cunningly avoided having to spend their own money on FTTP for the most part by offering it on demand in 2013.

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

if cab in installed and in delay there could be a duct problem, its blocked or needs highways to apprve a new route, it could be awating power or the cost of providing power is prohibibitve and therefore cab does nt get lit and made RFS, There are a host of reasons,

PS 2.5bn Roll out rollout out now above 10m homes (May 2012) and will complete a year earler that planned by 2014 -- using no public money and still pleople complain

The rollout covers an exchange area covering 10 million homes, it doesn't mean there are 10 million homes that have it available to order.

A bit of nice BT BS there, while they're busy worshipping themselves over spending money that should have been invested years ago, when they were busily spending far more on the cost saving 21CN and then 1.25 billion on share buybacks.

When framing the amount BT are spending it should be done in the context of what they spent on 21CN and their share buyback, neither of which were of obvious benefit to the customer base.

In reply to a post by nhow:

I did check on the BT site...that's where I found out they had advanced the date to 30 Sept for Tadley. We used to have BT but the download speed was so appalling we switched over to Sky. Now it's about 7.5, more than double what we had with BT...but what's confusing to me is that it's still BT lines...but we have to pay for Sky line rental....

My line was still a BT line despite paying line rental to Sky and having Sky Talk and broadband but when I switched to Sky Fibre the line switched to Sky and disappeared off the BT checker completely.

For Full LLU the copper pair no longer touches any BT wholesale system so their systems will not even know it exists, therefore they cannot line test it and give any speed info.

As I understand it, Openreach can line test it, but that info is only passed to the CP renting the pair. other CPs do not have to make this info available to anyone, unlike BT Wholesale who do, so it is only visible on that CPs system.

It appears that some CPs like to use the BTWholesale checker as they are interested in gaining customers from others, but not so interested in giving visibility to anyone of what people could get on lines they already control.

This also suggests that they do not want to encourage people to move to FTTC as they will have to pay out more to obtain the service and still have the 'sunk' costs as the voice will continue to use their own equipment as well.

BT Claim it is 10m lines on enabled Cabinets, not enabled exchanges.

This still overstates the numbers as not everyone on the Cabinets can get FTTC but the difference is only about 5% so mabe 9.5m homes with FTTC available. This is still good.
The 2012 Ofcom Communications Market Report says 31% of Homes in March 2012 so this is in the same ballpark as the 9.5m and creping up on the 44% passed by CATV, ( surprisingly only around 50% overlap!).

That's very interesting. If you don't mind me asking, are you paying a lot more for Sky Fibre than you were for BB?