All the Sptember ones that have not already been enabled have had their dates pushed out to December. It looks as if the BT wholsale Web site has not caught up with this yet.

In reply to a post by Bob_s2:

All the Sptember ones that have not already been enabled have had their dates pushed out to December. It looks as if the BT wholsale Web site has not caught up with this yet.

Pushed back or not the exchange is down as accepting orders , Because there are 2 out of the 20 or so cabs live, Cab dates i think used the same generic info as that on the fttc where &when site m
openreach don't give go live dates for individual fttc cabs ,

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I think people will agree that now I am full time with Seb that a lot more has come out of the thinkbroadband door.

Where's the News Article ?

Didn't know that, but had indeed noticed things do seem to happening. In particular you seem to respond about tbMeter more rapidly.

I'll mark it down as myth, then

There *is* a good reason to wait until there is a sufficient number of cabinets done - which is that it allows you to perform local-area marketing on Fibre availability without having to turn down 90% of the interested people.

However, we already know the BTOR shoot themselves in the foot every 3 months (with the mass delay of every line), so why would we expect them to make a positive effort on this front?

In reply to a post by Bob_s2:

All the Sptember ones that have not already been enabled have had their dates pushed out to December. It looks as if the BT wholsale Web site has not caught up with this yet.

Given that councils are actually involved in this upgrade of the dsl infrastructure i'm not inherently surprised that delays have occurred. Adsl is fair simpler to install in terms of that it just goes into the exchange. Vdsl involves alot more planning and a lot more 3rd parties .

Add in its BT/OR its not surprising the whole experience is a frustrating mess for some. Thats the negative the good thing is that bt is slowly moving to bigger exchanges with the dinky ones in the long term getting the chop.

Perhaps it depends on the council. Certainly where I live I was talking to the chamber of commerce and they were taking every opportunity to push OpenReach, make sure there weren't delays in the planning permission etc...

Not that it stopped the dates going from March until September, but it wasn't through the lack of trying...

They went live in September with a few cabinets and more are being upgraded, there is a constant flurry of OpenReach vans around. They just need to finish my cabinet!

Hah in my area they were trying to claim the council were blocking them from installing anything. Then I pointed out that elsewhere in this same Borough they were currently building, and were receiving planning permissions in conservation areas.

I pointed this out and the local project manager still stuck to the same story.

It's ridiculous.

in same boat, we had June then Sept, now 30th Dec live date (facepalm)

Lots of tasks are not done by BT but that is irrelevent the project should take that into account and include it in the milestones of the project plan and enage with the sub contractors to comit to those datres. You do that before you set your plan dates and time scales. The other favorite of BT is blaming thje power companies but all the power compnies have SLA and their published data shows that in 97% of cases that SLA is met so BT are bull [censored] with this

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Planning permisions are not an unknnown. PLanning permission is in any case only required in Conservation areas and a part of the project plan would be to identify those that are in conservation areas and to engage with the local planning department to access whethjer the provional proposals are likely to be acceptable and if so formally submit the plans. All councils have an SLA for planning permision so this is not an unknown.