In reply to a post by Bob_s2:

different BT sites seem to give different answers. THe best bet is the OPENREACH one but thats far from accurate and if you are down to cabinet level it's a black art.

And that's where they fail on an epic scale , All the FTTC cabs that are not in service will only require the fibre link back to the exchange , Mains power is connected and commissioned the PCP link cables are in ,So for them not to be in a position to release a estimate as to when they will of carried out this final step is a stupid mistake on their part , because the work will already be planned out, and if they have any clue they will know already about the ducting side of things plus the majority of it will probably run alongside the existing main bt copper bundle that is under the road , Just another area where BT fail

In reply to a post by Bob_s2:

Urgent work such as power lines coming down gets priority.

Exactly- they have a requirement to maintain the service, a Service Level Agreement (though it may also be a legal requirement, it's still an SLA).

That's what SLA stands for, it's an agreement (contract) to maintain a defined level of service, which they can't do until the power lines are repaired.

eta- and it will only be urgent if they can't maintain the service to the affected area by using a different route. If they can, they're likely to be more leisurely about the repairs.

Edited by billford (Sat 29-Sep-12 17:15:21)

In reply to a post by tommy45:

All the FTTC cabs that are not in service will only require the fibre link back to the exchange , Mains power is connected and commissioned the PCP link cables are in

Simples.

In reply to a post by tommy45:

And that's where they fail on an epic scale , All the FTTC cabs that are not in service will only require the fibre link back to the exchange , Mains power is connected and commissioned the PCP link cables are in ,So for them not to be in a position to release a estimate as to when they will of carried out this final step is a stupid mistake on their part , because the work will already be planned out, and if they have any clue they will know already about the ducting side of things plus the majority of it will probably run alongside the existing main bt copper bundle that is under the road , Just another area where BT fail

In addition to your list...

The other end of the fibre needs to be there - the fibre connection points on the way back to the exchange, the head-end exchange-based equipment, the exchange-based power, and any upgrades to the backhaul.

So, apart from the cabinet itself (which may not have equipment inside it yet), all that is needed is ... ... everything else.

Does this add anything to the discussion? Or was it just another opportunity to moan about BT? A generic, half-baked moan without one specific detail or fact included.

I guess the 11 million properties that *can* get SFBB from BT are an unlucky accident.

In reply to a post by WWWombat:

In reply to a post by tommy45:

And that's where they fail on an epic scale , All the FTTC cabs that are not in service will only require the fibre link back to the exchange , Mains power is connected and commissioned the PCP link cables are in ,So for them not to be in a position to release a estimate as to when they will of carried out this final step is a stupid mistake on their part , because the work will already be planned out, and if they have any clue they will know already about the ducting side of things plus the majority of it will probably run alongside the existing main bt copper bundle that is under the road , Just another area where BT fail

In addition to your list...

The other end of the fibre needs to be there - the fibre connection points on the way back to the exchange, the head-end exchange-based equipment, the exchange-based power, and any upgrades to the backhaul.

So, apart from the cabinet itself (which may not have equipment inside it yet), all that is needed is ... ... everything else.

Does this add anything to the discussion? Or was it just another opportunity to moan about BT? A generic, half-baked moan without one specific detail or fact included.

I guess the 11 million properties that *can* get SFBB from BT are an unlucky accident.

Ah but i have inside info see, The exchange end fibre is present, hence the 2 cabs already accepting orders the fftc cabs at time of install already have all the hardware installed ,even the mains company 100amp fuse and electric meter fitted in the L H side panel So once the thing is in situ & bolted to the deck all that remains is to connect the link cables from PCP and mains power &certify that it is electrically safe I know for a fact that the majority of the FTTC cabs have the mains power connected at time of install or shortly after , then the pcp link is installed , leaving the actual fibre from exchange , this is the situation where i live , as they will have already planned when they are going to install that to the cabs and in which order !!!

Edited by tommy45 (Sat 29-Sep-12 17:46:21)

In reply to a post by tommy45:

Ah but i have inside info see

So what's the problem?

Emergency repairs do not normally have much impact on normal day to day work. It is normally different teams and sub contractors. Clearly a major outage would have some impact such as if significant problems occur due to widespead flooding or storms. THis situations thoufgh are very uncommon

It will come as no consolation to you ADSL/VDSL types, but Virgin Media have had to delay many of their "double speed" fibre rollouts, some up to a year from the original dates! And I need say nothing about the "reduce all VM email domains to one or two", now probably 18 months late and with no obvious sign of a new end date.

So does that mean that very few large IT projects ever come in on time?

Why would you want to install an empty cabinnet. It is far more efficient to build the cabinets and test and commision them in a factory then all you have to do is connect them up and away you go

In reply to a post by wobblyheed:

According to BT Openreach's own 'When and where FTTC' site, my exchange is now accepting orders although the small details say from 30.09.12. However, trying to place an order via BT Openreach, another page says my order cannot be placed until 30 December.

Ummmm .

You cannot place an order via Openreach, only via an ISP. I assume therefore you mean BT (Retail) Infinity.

What happens if you try another ISP such as vivaciti, ADSL24 or Plusnet? BT Retail have been known to delay the occasional availability on their system.