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(deleted) Mon 01-Oct-12 18:07:12
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I am assuming BT do not have a blank sheet of paper and have done their advanced planning. Clearly you canot get a quote if you not know where the cabinet is going. THat would be obvious to anyone except you it seems
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(deleted) Mon 01-Oct-12 18:08:54
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In reply to a post by Bob_s2:
I am assuming BT do not have a blank sheet of paper and have done their advanced planning. Clearly you canot get a quote if you not know where the cabinet is going.
Ah, so you again admit you are wrong.
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(deleted) Mon 01-Oct-12 18:15:04
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The gain is lower cost and a faster revenue stream. Why would BT want to have several thousand pounds worth of kit that they have been infvoiced for just sitting around doing nothing and earning them no revenue when if they had scheduled the power install they could have a revenue stream 6 weeks earlier and less strain on the cash flow?


lol FTTC take up is only <7% when available, OR will not see a ROI for years, trust me they don't CARE about 6 weeks delay as much as they care about keeping the overall project costs minimal.

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(deleted) Mon 01-Oct-12 18:16:27
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Are you for real? Of course you cannot go to a utility company and say I am thiniking of installing some cabinets somewhere in the UK , can you give me a quote for the Power install
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(deleted) Mon 01-Oct-12 18:19:55
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Are you for real? Of course you cannot go to a utility company and say I am thiniking of installing some cabinets somewhere in the UK , can you give me a quote for the Power install
So you admit that this is incorrect
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THere is nothing to stop BT getting a quote at any time.
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(deleted) Mon 01-Oct-12 18:23:02
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I agree FTTC margins are slim hence the need to maintain tight cost control and that means not paying for things until you need them. Having a dead cabinet sitting in the street is incurring additiional costs and asfecting your bottom line.


It is a good job BT are not ruuning supermarkets. They have an unknown number of cstomers each day who will by an unknown variety of goods. THey have goods with limited shelf life THey have thousands of stores with different access conditions and hundreds of different suppliers. They also need to maanage it to minimize inventory

How do they do it? They have sophisticated models that take into account each store, the weather, bank holidays,major sporting events , religious events etc etc. and they can stock there stores to a high degree of accuracy whilst minimisinmg stock levels
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(committed) Mon 01-Oct-12 18:31:15
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Well here appears to be an example:
http://www.ukpowernetworks.co.uk/internet/en/connect...

Now reading this it appears at best to be
1) 3weeks to provide a quotation (taking section 1a
2) 6 weeks for a design )taking section 2a)
3) 2 weeks to actually do the work subject to a successful design

Now I suspect the difficulty starts when the design phase throws up problems
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(deleted) Mon 01-Oct-12 18:33:15
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In reply to a post by Bob_s2:
I agree FTTC margins are slim hence the need to maintain tight cost control and that means not paying for things until you need them. Having a dead cabinet sitting in the street is incurring additiional costs and asfecting your bottom line.


It is a good job BT are not ruuning supermarkets. They have an unknown number of cstomers each day who will by an unknown variety of goods. THey have goods with limited shelf life THey have thousands of stores with different access conditions and hundreds of different suppliers. They also need to maanage it to minimize inventory

How do they do it? They have sophisticated models that take into account each store, the weather, bank holidays,major sporting events , religious events etc etc. and they can stock there stores to a high degree of accuracy whilst minimisinmg stock levels
Have you ever experienced a supermarket running out of anything? Or do you believe that everything it supplies is always available?
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(staff) Mon 01-Oct-12 18:37:34
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Supermarkets have decades of data to figure out the demand patterns, look at the press coverage when there is a one off event and they complain about over stocking or poor levels of sales due to the weather.

Demand for superfast broadband is all very new. Though once coverage gets to around 80% I am expecting take-up to escalate (only based on hunch from ADSL roll-outs, where it seemed to be that once the suburbs where the press live get covered that coverage in press improves and this drives takeup)

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(sensei) Mon 01-Oct-12 18:45:58
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If BT do that then they need to plug into their programe a 6 week lead time for power as if they do not place the order for power onto the Utlity company untill the cabinet is in place they will have to wait for upto seeks weeks for power(SLA)
Where is your evidence that there is a 6 week lead time for power?
Ours was more like 2-3 weeks from the cabinet arriving to the humming starting.

I doubt if they installed a beehive to fool us.

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