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Standard User R0NSKI
(experienced) Sun 28-Oct-12 09:32:06
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Re: Latency on FTTC products - ADSL24\BT\SKY


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I play Crysis 2 a lot in the late evening Friday - Sunday, when choosing a server pings are always reported at 100 or above, but during games my ping can be anything from about 20 up to just over 100 - guess that depends on where the server is.


Pinging www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.244.69] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.244.69: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=55
Reply from 212.58.244.69: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=55
Reply from 212.58.244.69: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=55
Reply from 212.58.244.69: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 212.58.244.69:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 20ms, Maximum = 20ms, Average = 20ms


I with Plusnet on the Fibre Extra package, and interleaving (currently just under 700) is quite high on my connection, in fact it seems to go up and down quite a bit, but its never caused any problems gaming that I'm aware of.

Edited by R0NSKI (Sun 28-Oct-12 09:32:54)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 28-Oct-12 13:59:49
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Jitter (aka ping variance) will be massively better on any of the FTTC providers.

This is my f8lure graph: http://f8luresig.mouselike.org/sig.png?/48975.png
Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Sun 28-Oct-12 14:33:53
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In reply to a post by driz:
Jitter (aka ping variance) will be massively better on any of the FTTC providers.

I have a Samknows monitoring box which I've had for nearly 2 years.

On my ADSL2+ ISP (BE) I was getting RTP jitter averaging around 0.63ms and a spike at 3ms for the month of August (a full ADSL2+) month. On BT Infinity FTTC I'm getting an average of 0.23ms with a spike at 2.5ms for October (a full FTTC month).

A small improvement but not dramatic.

FTTP would be interesting, as then we would be measuring the ISP rather than the connection to the ISP smile

James BT Infinity 2 19/09/2012 - Estimate 44.6/6.5 - Install 52/12 - Actual 46 / 8 Mbps
13 years of broadband - ntl:(512k/1M)/BTbusiness(2M)/Metronet(2M)/Bulldog(8M/16M)/BE(16M)/BT FTTC(50M)


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 29-Oct-12 11:29:20
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Re: Latency on FTTC products - ADSL24\BT\SKY


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Interesting stats re: ADSL/VDSL2 jitter. Probably down to ISP and FTTC having greater bandwidth - meaning traffic doesn't induce as much jitter. I can't imagine the technology itself making any difference!

But the context of my reply was in response to him coming from VM cable!

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Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Mon 29-Oct-12 19:58:04
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In reply to a post by driz:
But the context of my reply was in response to him coming from VM cable!

Gotcha! I've yet to see any Samknows members info from a VM connection, but I've seen enough of VM myself to know the kind of problems smile

James BT Infinity 2 19/09/2012 - Estimate 44.6/6.5 - Install 52/12 - Actual 46 / 8 Mbps
13 years of broadband - 1999 ntl:(512k/1M)/BTbusiness(2M)/Metronet(2M)/Bulldog(8M/16M)/BE(19M/16M)/BT FTTC(46M)
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 30-Oct-12 08:20:27
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In reply to a post by jchamier:
Gotcha! I've yet to see any Samknows members info from a VM connection, but I've seen enough of VM myself to know the kind of problems smile

That's why I have VM & BE. BE for online gaming and work VPN and VM for the kids\downloading as the VM sucks for QOS.

I am paying £28 for BE inc landline so though of going to a FTTC product but it needs to ideally be low latency and solid.

So it looks like it will be BT or Sky or Plusnet for £32ish inc line rental. Probably Sky due to the unlimited nature and non port port throttling.

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Standard User R0NSKI
(experienced) Tue 30-Oct-12 10:07:07
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Plusnet don't really throttle now, only P2P between 8pm and 10pm, also gaming traffic is prioritized, and data allowance is now 250GB with midnight to 8am unlimited.

Standard User Chrysalis
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 31-Oct-12 04:43:55
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Re: Latency on FTTC products - ADSL24\BT\SKY


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this is going to depend on location in proximity to 21CN node.

On a BTw based isp, which would include infinity I route via birmingham node, and as such my latency isnt great. (about 2ms per 10 miles).

On a easynet based isp eg. when I was on ukonline they have a POP in my city that has a direct route to london, then I got great latency under 10ms. (about 1ms per 10 miles).

On Virgin media I am not sure their network layout but the base latency is halfway in between what I got on ukonline and BTw.

Of course if interleaved it then adds a chunk as well.

right now I am leaning to sky FTTC because (a) they apparently have sticky IP's like VM that only change when the MAC changes and (b), the easynet backbone they use should give me a good base latency to london.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 31-Oct-12 07:21:04
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Plusnet Extra has fixed IP address for a one-off payment of £5.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 57.4/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 31-Oct-12 09:31:44
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Sunday 5am mine went onto interleaved for the first time since connection in Feb 2011. No apparent reason in my modem stats log or BQM.

Interleaving depth is 639 down, 1 up, and downstream sync dropped by about 5Mbps frown. Upstream sync about as it was.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 52.9/14.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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