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Standard User Garyilka
(knowledge is power) Tue 20-Nov-12 12:06:13
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(deleted) Tue 20-Nov-12 12:14:46
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It is not sensible to connect to a lamppost to obtain a power supply and the feed onm it is not intended for that purpose. Lamp posts can and do get knocked down and lamp post will get replaced.
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(deleted) Tue 20-Nov-12 12:19:51
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In reply to a post by Bob_s2:
It is not sensible to connect to a lamppost to obtain a power supply and the feed onm it is not intended for that purpose. Lamp posts can and do get knocked down and lamp post will get replaced.


If the feed were problematic UK Power Networks, etc, wouldn't allow it to happen or would, and do, require BT pay for upgrade to the supply to make it viable.

I presume now having spoken authoritatively on BDUK and several other things you're now trying to tell UK Power Networks et al how to run their grids?


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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Tue 20-Nov-12 12:20:56
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In reply to a post by Bob_s2:
It is not sensible to connect to a lamppost to obtain a power supply and the feed onm it is not intended for that purpose. Lamp posts can and do get knocked down and lamp post will get replaced.



Yet more verbal diarrhoea!


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 20-Nov-12 13:00:07
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You really are making a name for yourself Bob wink you remind me of another person who used to haunt this site/forum
Standard User kitcat
(member) Tue 20-Nov-12 14:00:05
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Bob

Funny from the Beginning of Oct to 5th November 41 new exchanges were available. Today another 7 have been made available, that's 48 not 30 this quarter.

I was in the middle of doing some research last week on old files I had kept, as last time this came up someone wanted to know how many of the historiccaly announced Exchages had actually been enabled.

I have tracked back through some files to a copy taken on 01/03/2012 and the following is the result.

At 01/03/2012 there were 421 Exchanges in the 'coming soon' list and 782 Accepting orders

Of the 'coming soon' list 390 are now accepting orders, with 31 not yet active, 7.4% of the total. Some of these have slipped 6 months.

Of these 5 are no longer in the 11/11/2012 'coming soon' list at all! So need your sympathy (EARLS COURT, HOO, LANCING, SHOREHAM, STORRINGTON).

In addition 73 Exchanges are accepting orders that were not in the coming soon list at 01/03/12 making 463 activated since 01/03/2012.

In total at 11/11/2012 1245 exchanges were accepting orders
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There are now 199 exchanges in the coming soon list, 120 for Dec 2012 and 79 for Mar 2013.

Move 7 from coming soon to available for those announced today 20/11/12
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 20-Nov-12 14:04:36
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BT cabinets get crashed into too, and manholes can collapse when tanks park on the them too

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Standard User kitcat
(member) Tue 20-Nov-12 14:22:00
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In addition

From the 14/11/2011 one year ago to 11/11/2012 only 10 exchanges on the coming soon list have not been made available, CRAYFORD, EARLS COURT, ERITH, FLITWICK, NAILSWORTH, PADDINGTON, SANDWICH, TADLEY, WEST KENSINGTON & WINKFIELD ROW.

This is out of 313 that were on the list a year ago. So only 10 have slipped from 1 year ago and at least 2 of these have been due to one London Council not BT.

In addition there have been 334 made available that were not on the coming soon list a year ago. So these have ALL been achieved within the year of being announced so cannot have slipped more than 5 months at max and may only be 2 ( announced for June or Sep 2012).

I also have files for 12/12/2011 so may look again next month if I can find time!
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Tue 20-Nov-12 14:39:38
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In addition

From the 14/11/2011 one year ago to 11/11/2012 only 10 exchanges on the coming soon list have not been made available, CRAYFORD, EARLS COURT, ERITH, FLITWICK, NAILSWORTH, PADDINGTON, SANDWICH, TADLEY, WEST KENSINGTON & WINKFIELD ROW.

This is out of 313 that were on the list a year ago. So only 10 have slipped from 1 year ago and at least 2 of these have been due to one London Council not BT.

In addition there have been 334 made available that were not on the coming soon list a year ago. So these have ALL been achieved within the year of being announced so cannot have slipped more than 5 months at max and may only be 2 ( announced for June or Sep 2012).

I also have files for 12/12/2011 so may look again next month if I can find time!
Although BT is announcing exchanges even if they announced as excepting orders well in advance of the place holder dates (although this is can frequently be the 2dn or 3rd time) such place a holder date is announced by BT , AKA FTTC Rollout

But due to the fact that some of these announced as excepting orders exchanges, will typically only have a small percent of FFTC cabs actually RFS and these do have a tendency to be within areas served by VM cable, So in real terms not much use to BT or potential customers
So with so many FFTC cabinets not yet RFS then the real job is no where near complete, the info that BT publicly announce could be in the eyes of some misleading

It would be nice if accurate upto date info regarding the Status of every FFTC cab on every exchange announced within the previous 3mths so thats Sept 30th 12
I would bet that the percentage of FFTC cabinets RFS and accepting orders Within this 3mth window,would paint a very different picture, one that BT would not be proud of.

Maybe some independent group will one day start gathering info such as this and putting it in the public domain,

Edited by tommy45 (Tue 20-Nov-12 14:58:34)

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(deleted) Tue 20-Nov-12 15:42:19
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As expected BT hs release a few more exchanges on the low side of my estimate of 6 to 12. They have realeased today 7 exchanges
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