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Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Tue 20-Nov-12 21:02:45
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In reply to a post by tommy45:
In reply to a post by GMAN98:
No doubt that info is Restricted/In confidence and not for public viewing
No doubt that it is, but if such info was uploaded somewhere anonymously they couldn't point the finger at any specific ISP
They seem to have identified the leaker(s) of the two we have had.

It only needs one invalid entry per ISP and a query on a forum such as this that hits that line.
Nothing to stop several isp's comparing such data they have to find these delibrate errors before making some or all of that info available, minus the error/s designed to identify who leaked the info, Or do they BT expect members of the public to request the info via a freedom of information request, There IMO is no real justified reasoning behind their secrecy apart from to hide their ineptness perhaps

Standard User MHC
(sensei) Tue 20-Nov-12 21:10:24
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, Or do they BT expect members of the public to request the info via a freedom of information request, There IMO is no real justified reasoning behind their secrecy apart from to hide their ineptness perhaps


BT are not subject to FOI requests.

There information is commercially sensitive and why does anyone have a right to it? Does your comapny publish their business plans?


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Standard User kitcat
(member) Tue 20-Nov-12 21:43:48
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All

If you wish to look at post code data this is now available on the Ofcom site for all postcodes. Postcode data this is at 30th June 2012.

The only problem is the list is more than 1m lines long so I can't load it all into excel. I will have to load into access and remove all the invalid codes as they have used every possible code!

This is the detailed info you have all been looking for and says up to 65% of premises can now get SFBB. (This is a combination of both Virgin and BT ).

Read the whole report for all the detail. The link is also on the news article on the main page.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 20-Nov-12 22:13:01
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The information is not for the public its commercial, is that hard to understand?

Commercial information passing from one company to another.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 20-Nov-12 22:36:20
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Nothing to stop several isp's comparing such data they have to find these delibrate errors before making some or all of that info available, minus the error/s designed to identify who leaked the info
Except reality.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 20-Nov-12 22:36:50
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The information is available fromthe BT web site and the leaked spreadsheet.Not a 100^ accurate but gives most of the information
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 20-Nov-12 22:45:36
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I don't think that is really the info people want. It shows actual speed test data, presumably from the samknows testing system, not cabinet data and planned phases for the postcodes. It does say whether or not FTTx is available, but people already know that.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 20-Nov-12 23:10:52
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Go on pick a postcode and show us.

Cabinets that see delays are having pins show up, but this is a long way from the cab level that people are asking for.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 20-Nov-12 23:12:25
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I have the list - not much gets past me, just don't always have time to do stuff with it.

A fair few postcodes have no data at all, need a few hours to take a better look and figure out if or if not useful.

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Standard User kitcat
(member) Tue 20-Nov-12 23:14:10
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Tommy was asking for Data on Cabinets that are RFS,

I don't believe the RFS Cabinet data is supplied to ISPs as that wouldn't help as they wouldn't know which number is on which Cab.

What would be available is access to a database of Postcodes via the postcode checker, same as the data quoted.

Also access to a Number checker that says exactly which line is available same as the Customer visible Wholesale and Infinity checkers. This would also have 'nearly live' line test data to give expected speeds.

For live areas served by BT not LLU I think we see the same data on the public checkers as the ISP use, although they may have slightly more technical info. Only for Sky and TalkTalk unbundled lines they, (Sky and Talktalk), have not made the number info publicly available as they don't want their customers 'poached'.

BT get slated on here for not making info public, but they are completely open once they know that the cab can be served. (BTWholesale and BTRetail that is)
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