As others have said, not every exchange gets announced on there, like my local exchange at work, Sandwich. So therefore it is unreliable to use this source as a measure.

In reply to a post by Spasch:

He's pulled the information from the OpenReach Twitter Feed.

You miss the point ... He is continually posting "facts" with nothing to back it up and often totally incorrect facts or ones he wants to bend to his way of thinking. How many times has he been asked to support his assertions and failed to do so.

I have been informed by my roll and bacon that only 14 exchanges have gone live this month and that's that.
sorry but my wife's roll and egg has challenged my roll and bacon on that fact.
Will try find out more from my tea tonight

Edited by deleted (Tue 11-Dec-12 13:23:38)

I actually make it 1,282 on latest spreadsheet but won't quibble over 1 exchange. I also have a copy of spreadsheet of 4th Sep 2012 and that shows 1,127 FTTC enabled exchanges.

This then gives 155 Exchanges enabled between Sep 2012 Spreadsheet and Dec 2012 Spreadsheet.

In reply to a post by Bob_s2:

BT have realased another 9 exchanges today. THey are still a very long way of completing the 194 Exchanges that they had down for Q4 of this year ....

What's the problem? September to December is Q3 of this year for BT.

Thing is though, unless your cabinet is also accepting orders on that day or within a very short time afterwards (1 week) then BT Openreach announcing exchanges as accepting orders is meaningless to all the other potential customers , as their placeholder dates for cabinets are just as meaningless also

Even [email protected] provide duff info

XXXXX 32 is waiting on the fibre network installation to the DSLAM.
The council have stipulated that this is night working only. We have set up this works in week commencing 3rd Dec.If the works are completed satisfactorily, we are hoping to continue with the build and meet the end of December.

However, further unforeseen engineering problems and adverse weather may affect this date.

Regards

XXX XXXX
Customer Engagement

Was what they told me via e-mail regarding the cab im connected to
So far they still haven't done this work, just like they haven't unblocked a duct even though the job has appeared on the local councils street works page several times since June 12 each time they have failed to even start the work, But have managed to do other work, including completing other FTTC cabs , Which doesn't really sprise me,
I thought the night working only bit was suspect, council would not object to normal day working, the road is not a main road, or a paritularly buisy road , and is mainly made up of dwelling houses

Edited by tommy45 (Tue 11-Dec-12 19:11:51)

How do you mean tommy? If even just one cabinet is available for use on an exchange that exchange is accepting orders, makes sense to me.

You yourself might not be able to place an order but the exchange is capable of accepting orders if others can.

In reply to a post by GMAN98:

How do you mean tommy? If even just one cabinet is available for use on an exchange that exchange is accepting orders, makes sense to me.

You yourself might not be able to place an order but the exchange is capable of accepting orders if others can.

But if your cab isn't accepting orders which most of them are not on my exchange (only FTTC cabs that are inside virgin media cabled areas are enabled here) Does make the announcment pretty much useless information as the majority of VM cable customers will be happy to stay as they are,or still within their min term ,So customers will be few and far between, but for those who's cabs are not accepting orders(non VM cabled areas) The announcement by BT openreach that there exchance is accepting orders means very little to them,because they still cannot order,
Bt openreach should have to enable at least 50% of the FTTC cabs it has installed before it is able to announce exchanges as accepting orders ,IMO

As until they have all the installed cabs completed and accepting orders they have not achieved anything in my book this announcement of exchanges by them seems to done to draw peoples attention to this as if it's some milestone in history , when in reality the exchange accepting orders is only a small part of a very much bigger job, that remains unfinished for months afterwards

No your point makes no sense at all.

So... lets say there's an exchange with 100 FTTC cabinets, you are saying that at least 50 should be enabled before you can say the exchange is accepting orders?

Are you serious?

So meanwhile while your statistics is being satisfied over 6000+ (lets say they are all 128 cabs) can't order FTTC even if they want to, because you say they have to reach the 50% threshold first

What a crock. If one person on an exchange can order FTTC it is "accepting orders"

Do you not understand what those two words mean together?

I can understand why you might be miffed if you cannot place an order but what are your woes to anyone else? Why shouldn't they be able to place an order just because you cannot?

As soon as one cab is live the exchange can accept an order, for yourself you need to keep an eye on the website for others they can order away.

TTEnt
My error I had counted the header row!

One of my copies was from 25th Sep and I was taking that as the start of the qtr as no more were announced until Oct.

The difference makes 58 between 4th and 25th Sep so shows what is possible in a normal month ( Sep weather was about the last time we had normal weather for any length of time!)

Latest 'Coming soon' sheet only gives 86 left for Dec 12 so some have already slipped, but only 89 for Jan to Mar 13 so they will have a chance to get back to the latest forecast by the end March.

Then 398 for the rest of 2013 and 61 for 2014 to finish the 'Future exchanges', although they have kept adding more to this list as they went through the programme, so they may exceed this total at the end. I assume this was to achieve their coverage figures as they found it impossible to do some cabinets on the first choices ( Kensington and Chelsea is a big hole to fill on it's own)

This will make 1916 exchanges in total, to give the 65% of population availabliity that they forecast from.

From Talktalk and Sky coverage at this sort of exchange figure that would leave around 10-15% of people on these exchanges without FTTC/FTTP ( They claimed about 80% coverage at around 2000 exchanges).