Please guys (not picking on you especially panda)...

In reply to a post by panda:

In reply to a post by Bob_s2:

Q4 is the last quarter of the year. Oct to DEc

You never let a lack of knowledge or facts get in the way of you pretending to know what your are talking about, do you?

In reference to www.btplc.com/Sharesandperformance/Quarterlyresults/Quarterlyresult...:

Fourth quarter and year to 31 March, 2012

Yes, BT refers to Q4 as meaning the end of their financial year - at least when they're talking to financial analysts.

But most people use quarters within the calendar year. And Q4 would indeed be Oct-Dec.

When I used to do planning work within a (big) telco supplier, we'd write plans with months & quarters related to the calendar. Never the financial year - and I couldn't tell you when the financial year ended.

It really doesn't matter if Bob uses Q4 to mean Oct-Dec himself, so long as he isn't confusing the times when BT themselves use Q4 - and they don't tend to do that unless they're talking financials & quarterly results. I happen to think he isn't confusing the dates.

BT always uses their financial year quarters. It would be confusing and even ludicrous if different parts of the business used different terminology for different things.

So when the BT information shows exchanges planned for Q4, they are mean Jan - Mar.
If Bob is translating this as Oct - Dec, it will never be accurate.

I have found that non-UK owned companies tend to use Jan - Mar as Q1 (which matches their financial year) and UK companies use Apr - Jun as Q1.

e.g. Cisco (being a US company) uses Jan - Mar as Q1.

WE dont really know what is going onm at cabinet level as BY stay very quite about that. Exchanges can go live with very few cabinets enabled and there is not even any real information available as to which ones they are even planning to enable,

I dont think you grasp how projects plans work in the real world. THere they are meaningful and they are expected to deliver to plan of face penalty clauses

Q4 is the last Quarter of a year ie Oct to Dec

Rubbish. UK companies at least for non financial planning purposes use the Calander year quarters

Well, at least 4 of the exchanges listed were planned for "Mar-2013" - so they are well in advance of schedule.
(Assuming they are actually released, since they are still listed as coming soon and planned for Mar-2013 - you still haven't provided a reference for your sources: mine are from www.openreach.co.uk).

In reply to a post by Bob_s2:

I dont think you grasp how projects plans work in the real world. THere they are meaningful and they are expected to deliver to plan of face penalty clauses

I don't think you grasp that this wasn't a project plan. It was just public information. 'Aspirational' as sandacol wrote. You're the one missing the point, banging on about something most people know was never meant to be taken as gospel. Haranguing BTor because you fail to grasp that they never promised us anything.

It's people like you who can't tell the difference between a 'project plan' and a 'public relations marketing release' who cause companies to tone down their PR releases and decline to tell anyone anything.

In reply to a post by Uilebheist:

Yes, and my exchange is on that list but not shown live by Openreach (in fact, it's still listed in the "coming soon" list, latest version).
I get the feeling that the list in the OP is meaningless.

In one sense it always was. Certainly in the way Bob is determined to use it. The accuracy is fairly moot. Exchanges will be enabled as/when BT gets around to it. Cabinets will go live at some unknown point after that. No-one has been promised anything so the list is pretty useless either way.

List Updated in Line with Latest BT information . Now a 104 Exchanges

Exchange Name FTTC/P County or Unitary Authority
ABERDEEN KINCORTH FTTC Aberdeen City
ABERDEEN LOCHNAGAR FTTC Aberdeen City
ALLOA FTTC Clackmannanshire
ARDROSSAN- SALTCOATS FTTC North Ayrshire
ARDWICK FTTC Manchester District (B)
ARMTHORPE FTTC/P Doncaster District (B)
BEXHILL FTTC Rother District
BILSTON FTTC City of Wolverhampton District (B)
BOGNOR REGIS FTTC Arun District (B)
BOROUGH GREEN FTTC Tonbridge and Malling District (B)
BOURNE FTTC South Kesteven District
BOURNEMOUTH FTTC/P Bournemouth (B)
BRAUNSTONE FTTC Blaby District
BRIERLEY HILL FTTC Dudley District (B)
BRIGHTON KEMPTOWN FTTC/P The City of Brighton and Hove (B)
BUNGAY FTTC Waveney District
BURSLEDON FTTC Eastleigh District (B)
CASTLETON, GWENT FTTC Casnewydd - Newport
CHERTSEY FTTC Runnymede District (B)
CHICHESTER FTTC Chichester District (B)
CHURCHTOWN FTTC Sefton District (B)
CIRENCESTER FTTC Cotswold District
COSTESSEY FTTC South Norfolk District
COWES FTTC Isle of Wight
CROSSGATES FTTC Leeds District (B)
DEVONPORT FTTC City of Plymouth (B)
DEWSBURY FTTC Kirklees District (B)
DORCHESTER FTTC West Dorset District
DUNSTABLE FTTC South Bedfordshire District
ECCLES FTTC Salford District (B)
ESHER FTTC Elmbridge District (B)
FAREHAM FTTC Fareham District (B)
FLEETWOOD FTTC Wyre District (B)
FLITWICK FTTC Mid Bedfordshire District
FOLKESTONE FTTC/P Shepway District
FORDHOUSES FTTC City of Wolverhampton District (B)
GREAT CROSBY FTTC Sefton District (B)
GREAT YARMOUTH TOWN FTTC Great Yarmouth District (B)
GREENHITHE FTTC Dartford District (B)
GRESFORD FTTC Wrecsam - Wrexham
HAVANT FTTC Havant District (B)
HIGHWAY FTTC Coventry District (B)
HINDLEY FTTC Wigan District (B)
HUNSLET FTTC Leeds District (B)
ILKESTON FTTC Erewash District (B)
KEIGHLEY FTTC Bradford District (B)
KETTERING FTTC Kettering District (B)
KILMARNOCK FTTC East Ayrshire
KINGSWOOD FTTC South Gloucestershire
LANCING FTTC Adur District
LEATHERHEAD FTTC Mole Valley District
LEICESTER FTTC City of Leicester (B)
LEIGH; GREATER MANCHESTER FTTC Wigan District (B)
LOW MOOR FTTC Bradford District (B)
LYMINGTON FTTC New Forest District
MALTBY FTTC/P Rotherham District (B)
MANACCAN FTTC/P Kerrier District
MIDDLETON, WEST SUSSEX FTTC Arun District (B)
MIDHURST FTTC Chichester District (B)
MONTFORT FTTC City of Leicester (B)
MOUNTWOOD FTTC/P Wirral District (B)
MOUSEHOLE FTTC/P Penwith District
NAILSWORTH FTTC Stroud District
NEWPORT; ISLE OF WHITE FTTC Isle of Wight
NORWICH FTTC/P Norwich District (B)
PADDINGTON FTTC City of Westminster London Boro
PADDOCK WOOD FTTC Tunbridge Wells District (B)
PEEBLES FTTC Scottish Borders
PERTH FTTC Perth and Kinross
PONTYPRIDD FTTC Rhondda, Cynon, Taf - Rhondda, Cynon, Taff
POOLE FTTC Poole (B)
PRUDHOE FTTC/P Tynedale District
RADCLIFFE FTTC Bury District (B)
RYHOPE FTTC Sunderland District (B)
SEAHAM FTTC Easington District
SHOREHAM FTTC Adur District
SMALLBROOK FTTC Birmingham District (B)
SOUTH SHIELDS FTTC South Tyneside District (B)
SOUTHWICK (SOUTH DOWNS) FTTC Adur District
ST TUDY FTTC/P North Cornwall District
STOURBRIDGE FTTC Dudley District (B)
STRATHAVEN FTTC South Lanarkshire
SUDBURY, SUFFOLK FTTC Babergh District
SUNBURY FTTC Spelthorne District (B)
TEIGNMOUTH FTTC Teignbridge District
TEWKESBURY FTTC Tewkesbury District (B)
THE LIZARD FTTC/P Kerrier District
TRILLICK FTTC Northern Ireland
WADEBRIDGE FTTC/P North Cornwall District
WALLSEND FTTC North Tyneside District (B)
WEST KENSINGTON FTTC Hammersmith and Fulham London Boro
WESTBOURNE FTTC/P Bournemouth (B)
WESTON- SUPER- MARE FTTC North Somerset
WHITSTABLE FTTC Canterbury District (B)
WHITWELL, DERBYSHIRE FTTC Bolsover District
WIDNES FTTC Halton (B)
WIGAN FTTC Wigan District (B)
WINKFIELD ROW FTTC Bracknell Forest (B)
WOBURN SANDS FTTC/P Milton Keynes (B)
WOODHOUSE FTTC Sheffield District (B)
WORTHING CENTRAL FTTC Worthing District (B)
WREXHAM FTTC Wrecsam - Wrexham
YAXLEY FTTC Huntingdonshire District
YEOVIL FTTC South Somerset District