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Standard User Chrysalis
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 10-Jan-13 13:59:41
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Re: Status for a new build in Birmingham?


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BT wholesale checker is recent, its a live db.

The only possible reason it could be wrong is if your psotcode is served by multiple cabinets, in that case using the address checker is better or phone number.

BT Infinity 2 Since Dec 2012 - Estimate 65.9/20 - Attainable peak 110/36 - Current Sync 71/20
Standard User Chrysalis
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 10-Jan-13 14:01:32
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Re: Status for a new build in Birmingham?


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then he should email the nga email addy instead of asking on here.

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(deleted) Thu 10-Jan-13 14:14:57
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Re: Status for a new build in Birmingham?


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In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
then he should email the nga email addy instead of asking on here.

I actually have emailed Openreach already (and gotten a "we're very busy" autoresponse), I was just hoping someone with more recent postcode/cabinet info could give me a bit more information, particularly if it turns out my building is served with EO lines and I should just abandon all hope of FTTX right now.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 10-Jan-13 14:47:39
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Re: Status for a new build in Birmingham?


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Have to wait on the nga response, usually takes 7-10 days or less but they are the only ones with the most recent data.
Standard User R0NSKI
(experienced) Thu 10-Jan-13 15:40:12
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Re: Status for a new build in Birmingham?


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Unless the database is now updated as soon as a cabinet is planned for installation then it is not reliable for finding out if you're going to get fibre. My experience of checking three exchanges (every planned cab) on a weekly basis since last August (see map in sig) using addresses which are supplied by the cabinet in question proves this to me.

If I get chance I will check some tonight and post details tonight to prove this to you, or see if it's now kept up to date.

Edit: It's quiet here at work so to prove that the BT wholesale checker is unreliable for predicting FTTC

We take cabinet NDWES 9, which has just been scheduled for installation between 18 - 24 January on www.roadworks.org

Opposite this cabinet is a pub, their postcode is CT88JT
We check the postcode in the December 2011 spreadsheet, it is 100% supplied by cabinet NDWES 9

We put the pubs phone number into the BT Wholsale checker and get the following:

For Telephone Number (look it up if you want to check) on Exchange WESTGATE

Your exchange is ADSL enabled, and our initial test on your line indicates that your line should be able to have an ADSL broadband service that provides a fixed line speed up to 2Mbps.

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports an estimated ADSL Max broadband line speed of 8Mbps; typically the line speed would range between 7Mbps and 8Mbps.

Our test also indicates that your line should be able to have an ADSL2+ broadband service that provides a fixed line speed up to 2Mbps.

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports an estimated ADSL2+ broadband line speed of 18.5Mbps; typically the line speed would range between 17Mbps and 20.5Mbps. Our test also indicates that your line could support an estimated ADSL 2+ Annex-M broadband upstream line speed of 1.5Mbps and downstream line speed of 18.5Mbps; typically the downstream speed would range between 17Mbps and 20.5Mbps.

The actual stable line speed supportable will be determined during the first 10 days of use. This speed may change over time, to ensure line stability is maintained.

If you decide to place an order, a further test will be performed to confirm if your line is suitable for the service you wish to purchase.

Thank you for your interest.

Please note that postcode and address check results are indicative only. Most accurate results can be obtained from a telephone number check.
Note: Provision of some services may not be allowed due to product withdrawal, please contact your service provider for further details.


Now I take my post code, with 100% lines supplied and feed it in to the infinity checker here.

Where it says 'Check if you can get BT infinity' select I'm not with BT, enter the postcode and 999 as the house number (we want a number that won't be found)
Now when it complains it can't find the address just enter only the postcode and click find.
It will now give you all addresses supplied in that postcode, and as that postcode was 100% from the cab we know they are all on the cab in question. Sometimes it will even show the PCP and/or DSLAM, in this instance it does show the DSLAM which has not been installed, so it is in a BT database, even though it is not yet installed.

Now take any of those addresses and try them in the address checker, I'll try number 41.

I get the same result as above, no mention of FTTC, yet we know the cabinet is planned and scheduled for installation soon, therefore you can not rely on the wholesale checker to know if you are going to get fibre or not.

Edited by R0NSKI (Thu 10-Jan-13 16:19:07)

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(deleted) Fri 11-Jan-13 12:33:34
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Re: Status for a new build in Birmingham?


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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Re the cabinet, have a look through these pics.


It matches a TW cabinet perfect. Guess I'm going to be stuck on copper; but better than nothing.

Cheers guys
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(deleted) Mon 14-Jan-13 02:44:45
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While I'm not sure quite what just happened, after popping my full address into the BT Wholesale checker, it just gave me a results screen I've never seen before and told me I'm apparently on CMCEN's Cabinet 28, though without any mention of FTTC frown. Still, I guess at least it's not an EO line.
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(deleted) Mon 14-Jan-13 03:31:40
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Re: Status for a new build in Birmingham?


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The BT Wholesale checker has been upgraded. The new checker often shows the cabinet number, though does not always do so. Obviously, in your case, as cabinet details are displayed, your line comes via a cabinet.

New builds can be picked up via in-fill. I put the details of a new build (2 years old) flat that we have family ties to into the new checker, which told me that it is now scheduled for FTTC by the end of the quarter. Obviously this date may slip, but this is much better news that the previous position of being tentatively slated for much-delayed FTTP that still has no widely deployed solution for blocks of flats.
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(deleted) Tue 15-Jan-13 22:32:53
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Status for a new build in Glasgow?


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Hi, first post here so I hope this is the correct thread / forum. Wondering if anyone can tell me what cabinet I am connected to? Post code is G66 3DH (Partridge Place, Lenzie).

When I plug my phone number into samknows it says my exchange is Kirkintilloch and it will get the BT Wholesale FTTC status is: RFS date set : 31/03/2013

That poses another question. If my cabinet gets BT Wholesale FTTC does that mean I can only get BT Infinity or can the other providers such as Talk Talk or Sky provide me with "Superfast" internet?

Cheers,
Jon.
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(deleted) Tue 15-Jan-13 22:57:11
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Re: Status for a new build in Glasgow?


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Put your phone number in this checker; you can also try the address checker (link in that page). This should show the cabinet (but occasionally it doesn't...)
If your cabinet gets enabled, you'll be able to order FTTC witgh any provider who offer it, although some may take a bit longer to start accepting order than others.
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