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Standard User hoopla
(member) Sun 27-Jan-13 15:26:59
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Re: Recommended router for FTTP 330 Mbps?


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Or are you just a misanthrope who dislikes helping others?


Troll.

No, I'm a big fan of Fon - it's a really good idea.

What are your reasons for your unwillingness to share?

To call anyone who questions your approach a "troll" says more about you than I could.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 27-Jan-13 16:04:31
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PCI bus is 133 MegaBYTES per second not megabits\s = 1066mbps - plenty fast enough.


Sorry, you're right. My bad. Megabytes not megabits.

Divide by three or four though, if the NICs share the same bus, whether directly, or on a PCI riser, and the device will hit the same limits as the HH3. And according to the wikipedia entry on the PCI bus standard, the data throughput is less than the raw speed, because of all the control transactions.

Same with USB-based ethernet NICs. They should be good for 100Mbps since the USB2.0 standard states a max throughput of 480Mb/s yet that's never achieved. These one dollar NICs max out at 40Mbps.

cheers, a
Standard User alexatkin
(learned) Mon 28-Jan-13 03:48:11
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In reply to a post by Yaz:
If you have a moment, could you make a spec from www.scan.co.uk and post the link for the items.

Here's the list:

DN2800MT Motherboard £80
http://skinflint.co.uk/746927

1 GB RAM DDR3 SO-DIMM £9
http://skinflint.co.uk/?cat=ramsoddr3&xf=1454_1024#x...

Case (M350) £37
http://linitx.com/product/12488

Riser card + IO shield (to allow a 2nd NIC) £12
http://linitx.com/product/13552

AC Power Adapter £19
http://www.logicsupply.co.uk/power-supplies/ac-adapt...

Additional Intel Gigabit NIC £21
http://skinflint.co.uk/351749

Intel 6300 Ultimate-N 450 Mbps £20
http://skinflint.co.uk/616661

mSATA 32GB £36 (this is a luxury, I would say just boot from a USB stick)
http://skinflint.co.uk/?cat=hdssd&sort=p&xf=2646_mSA...


Total with one Ultimate-N card (and excluding the mSATA): £198
Add £20 for a second card to provide simultaneous dual-band support.

Please note these are all indicative, I haven't researched every last detail in terms of compatibility, but this is the rough bill of materials needed.


Very similar to my build which I did as I was fed up with reliability problems trying to run even 40Mbit FTTC on my Buffalo router. It was fine until my ISP switched to PPPoE and then things got hairy, made QoS completely impractical. So I built this with the intention of not having to upgrade it again even if I switched to FTTP later.

https://plus.google.com/photos/108348704364791506166...

I run a version of OpenWRT compiled for Atom though:
https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=35887

Interestingly it had to have power management disabled in the kernel as there is a bug with the on-board Intel Gigabit Ethernet chipset (at least with the newer Linux driver) that causes packet lag/loss, which oddly the PCIe card of identical chipset doesn't suffer from. There are many mentions of this on Google even on lower server class boards with the same chipset.

Fortunately, power management seems to make no difference at all to the power consumption of this board in Linux. Although I never managed to get it below around 16W with any OS regardless of power management setting.

Its also worth noting that you really want PM disabled on a router anyway as the act of PM switching things on, off, frequency scaling, can add latency to the routing performance. Although I doubt its particularly noticeable its always best to aim for optimal performance IMO.

Edited by alexatkin (Mon 28-Jan-13 04:00:45)


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 28-Jan-13 12:00:14
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Very similar to my build which I did as I was fed up with reliability problems trying to run even 40Mbit FTTC on my Buffalo router. It was fine until my ISP switched to PPPoE and then things got hairy, made QoS completely impractical. So I built this with the intention of not having to upgrade it again even if I switched to FTTP later.

Very cool. I love how clean it is (no cables). I gather you didn't run into any major issues?

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Standard User arfster
(knowledge is power) Tue 29-Jan-13 11:15:38
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Impressive that broadband is getting to the point where people are struggling to find hardware capable of handling the throughput smile
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(deleted) Sun 03-Feb-13 20:06:34
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have you found an alternative? I'm returning the n66u tomorrow ;/ still need something to replace the hh3
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 03-Feb-13 20:07:50
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How come you are returning the N66U?

I've detailed what I will probably be getting (an Atom motherboard) in an earlier post.
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(deleted) Sun 03-Feb-13 20:19:45
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wouldn't go past 200mb/s. With hh3 I sometimes even get 300. Don't want to be limited by the hardware
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 03-Feb-13 21:39:03
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Ah ok, you also have FTTP. The Atom route is guaranteed, I tested a four year old Atom 330 running RouterOS, and it did 300 Mbps easily at 20% CPU.
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(deleted) Mon 18-Feb-13 04:38:03
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Hi I am in the same position - have 300 enabled and looking for HH3 alternative...
Did you consider ASUS RT-N65U?
It says it is dual processor....
TY
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