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(deleted) Sat 09-Feb-13 20:10:39
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Re: Exchange enabled, new cabinet and no FTTC


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Nice, thank you!
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(deleted) Mon 11-Feb-13 00:30:20
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Re: Exchange enabled, new cabinet and no FTTC


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In reply to a post by rento:
...Even though part of my village is served by a FTTC cabinet, I have just discovered that my cabinet it's a different one... the mega old pcp!! http://www.robertos.me.uk/html/bt_furniture_7.html


Sorry to post a little off-topic, but that isn't a mega-old PCP, is it? They're fibreglass and I think only got commissioned by BT from the mid 70s to late 80s? Someone else here will know, I can remember a similar discussion. There's one of those fairly close to me, and incidentally, it's now got a connected FTTC twin and they didn't need to re-shell it. I've posted this picture before, but just for reference, this is the inside of it:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/gazzyk1ns/pcp...

With the vertical on the right, as we look at it, being the FTTC tie-in section.

These: http://www.robertos.me.uk/html/bt_furniture_0.html are far older (that particular one has had one of its doors replaced by a more modern spec one), and every instance around here which has now got a FTTC twin has been re-shelled. There's a PCP around here which I don't think is on RobertoS' site, I'll take a picture and see if he wants to add it. It looks like a complete version of what they took that^ replacement door from.

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(deleted) Mon 11-Feb-13 17:05:52
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Re: Exchange enabled, new cabinet and no FTTC


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Hi,

I am on the same estate as you and the same cabinet. The roads we are on (and the cabinet I think) are uadopted. I believe this might be part of the problem because permission needs to be forthcoming from the developer.

There appear to be two new cabinets one in Pulloxhill and one in Greenfield. I'm not sure who their client base is going to be because my understanding is that the older houses have overhead cables which causes issues (is this right?) and they haven't taken into account the new estates.

They have certainly been working to get fibre to someone in the area!

M


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(deleted) Fri 15-Feb-13 20:05:14
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Re: Exchange enabled, new cabinet and no FTTC


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Greenfield and Pulloxhill ( the top only ) are getting / will get Infinity. Their cabinet is conveniently situated here much closer to the exchange ( well, all the 0.9 miles of it! ) whilst the one for the estate lives here.

The fiber only needs to get to the cabinet in order to have infinity working. I have no idea if they need to get a cable from Flitwick all the way to our cabinet in order to make it work or if they can extend the line from 1 of the enabled cabinets instead.

The irony is that our estate is covered by CableTel (now owned by Virgin Media ) manholes and cabinets and yet no fiber.
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(deleted) Fri 22-Feb-13 23:51:10
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Re: Exchange enabled, new cabinet and no FTTC


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Well, one thing to note is that the lower piece of Pulloxhill actually has a new cabinet opposite here I noticed it while driving through on Thursday. So it doesn't appear to be a case of not being able to get a cable to us if they got one down there.

I would suspect maybe planning permission or some other red tape as the existing location is on an industrial estate would be the issue.

I'm on the estate (and your road), and have a problem with my BT broadband so will probably have an engineer out soon, I'll ask them then.
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(deleted) Tue 02-Apr-13 13:21:26
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As an update, the local Openreach guys know nothing, and couldn't put me in touch with anyone who did.

I've done further research and found this for our street, which is based off a cabinet planning document done in December 2011 that was leaked

http://fttc-check.alc.im/results.php?postcode=MK455EF

this is the postcode for the pub in the nearby village of Greenfield

http://fttc-check.alc.im/results.php?postcode=MK455DD

this is the postcode for the pub further down the road in Pulloxhill

http://fttc-check.alc.im/results.php?postcode=MK455HD

It seems that even as far back as December 2011, we have been excluded from the planning process, where the nearby towns and villages have been included as part of phase 7a

This would point further to an issue around the cabinet location and planning (probably due to the fact it is on private land) rather than technical issues
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 02-Apr-13 13:39:45
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If cabinet were likely to be on private land, then a wayleave would be needed and that usually involves paying money to the land owner, some want a lot, some might see the usefulness to the community, but even then it adds a layer of admin to getting the cabinet deployed.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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(deleted) Tue 02-Apr-13 13:49:22
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My thoughts exactly. I'm guessing the land owner probably asked for an extortionate amount of cash, and Openreach have just said no.

The next step is, what can we on the estate do about it?
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(staff) Tue 02-Apr-13 14:00:28
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Can you find an alternate public pavement location for cabinet within 50m of existing one?

Lobby landowner, who may not have understood the situation, particularly if landowner is also a landlord in the area, the impact on rentability may be important

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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