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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 22-Feb-13 13:58:15
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Same route and single fibre per card, but spare fibres so if one breaks they can swap over.

Diverse routing gets very expensive

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 22-Feb-13 16:08:23
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A bit more about how FTTC gets to the premises.

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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
A bit more about how FTTC gets to the premises.


One of the things that surprised me there was this: - The initial FTTC street cabinets can handle only 288 connections each.

Is that right? Even for now? I just know that there is one cabinet in Bridgeton which is serving what must be over 400 properties.

What happens in this scenario?


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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Fri 22-Feb-13 16:28:19
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when you get 20% takeup of FTTC there are no great dramas. They initially aren't fully equipped for 288 either.

280 is 70% of 400, so the FTTC cab is about right for all of the broadband users.

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Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Fri 22-Feb-13 17:14:02
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In reply to a post by jparnell82:
interesting, thanks.
One last question, is there any redundancy built into the FTTC network? If a cabinet has multiple fibres, are they for capacity or redundancy? do they take the same route?


if you want diverse routing, you're into business territory and probably should be buying a circuit.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 22-Feb-13 17:28:42
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If they do fill up they can add a second cabinet anyway.

In a year or two that may be a mute thing, as businesses moving to FTTPonDemand may free up FTTC ports.

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(deleted) Fri 22-Feb-13 18:48:38
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In reply to a post by Ribble:
This gives a brief description of the FTTP network


Just reading through that...

It appears that the phone is supplied through the fibre as well (page 22), could someone explain how this works please?

Also, if a neighbour (business or residential) orders up fibre in a non fibre area, and their fibre passes by your property, what are the chances of being able to get FTTP easier? Also, if anything fibre related were to happen, would it be acceptable to bury your own single mode armoured fibre for BT to connect to (I have my doubts), or would it just be easier to dig the trench for them to lay their own conduit/fibre?

Thanks, JF.
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(staff) Fri 22-Feb-13 18:50:43
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The phone can be supplied via the Fibre using a product called Fibre Voice Access

A bit more towards bottom of http://www.thinkbroadband.com/guide/fibre-broadband....

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 22-Feb-13 18:55:49
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Also, if a neighbour (business or residential) orders up fibre in a non fibre area
That would be a leased line, like schools, hospitals, libraries and the like have. There is no chance of consumer products being fed from that fibre.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 541/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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In reply to a post by 405mi16:
Also, if a neighbour (business or residential) orders up fibre in a non fibre area
That would be a leased line, like schools, hospitals, libraries and the like have. There is no chance of consumer products being fed from that fibre.


Hmm, fair enough, I did think there would be something to prevent it.

I don't suppose an exchange serving 150 properties will really be anywhere on BT's list of priority's for being fibre enabled... But would there be any chance if they were offered outside investment to do it?

Thing is this area is so sparsely populated over such great distances, fibre is the only way we'd ever get anything over 1meg (apart from satellite, but that's not ideal either...).

Thanks for the info anyway, JF.
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