Especially when BT know how many properties have a BT line, and if 80% have VM, then that's only around 20% (approximately 40 properties) possibly with a BT line. So a low take up because of the low amount of properties served, further reduced by those that are on VM, who may or may not move over.

If an access to Virgin Media then the BDUK process will see it as one superfast provider available, and thus not be eligible for spending, thus concentrating the funds in areas where no superfast is available now or has no prospect of any commercial roll-out.

I'd not thought of the logical consequences of this before, but...

As Virgin have chosen to deploy only in the most competitive locations - ones that are easy to reach, with a high density of people, I think we can readily assume that these areas are all going to be within the easiest of the "90% coverage" target for BDUK.

But BDUK won't pay for those areas to be covered.

Therefore the Virgin areas must all be included in the commercial rollout, with the earlier completion date.

So that explains, at least partially, why BT have tended to include and cover a lot of the Virgin areas early in the rollout.

Sounds plausible, at least as one of the many factors in Openreach's planning.

moving house when you rent is still a pain and expensive.

letting agents are leeches.

In reply to a post by R0NSKI:

Especially when BT know how many properties have a BT line, and if 80% have VM, then that's only around 20% (approximately 40 properties) possibly with a BT line. So a low take up because of the low amount of properties served, further reduced by those that are on VM, who may or may not move over.

Is it not other way round?

Current high takeup by BT means BT aready get line rental and possilby other subs related to broadband. So revenue growth potential = small.

Current high takeup by VM, rollout NGA then the amount gained from ex VM customers is much higher than converting existing to FTTC customers.

However if its a high BT takeup areas with little takeup from VM, and also high amounts of faults due to dodgy long lines, FTTC can be justified by reducing faults (although probably not almost removing them like FTTP).

Cab 27 is outside the flats on Chepstow Road, by the railings

So at least his friends car lot will get FTTC, it's not giving any estimates yet though on the wholesale checker.