to me its simple but BT clearly feel in terms of commerical value there is less of a business case.

The simple solution is surely to stick a cabinet outside the front door of the exchange. Or rather 2 cabinets as the FTTC cabinet has to be near the voice cabinet. The only rerouting would be between the exchange and the cabinet.

Of course it varies from exchange to exchange. But most round this way have very little, or none.

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

to me its simple but BT clearly feel in terms of commerical value there is less of a business case.

The simple solution is surely to stick a cabinet outside the front door of the exchange. Or rather 2 cabinets as the FTTC cabinet has to be near the voice cabinet. The only rerouting would be between the exchange and the cabinet.

You appear to be under the illusion that EO lines are short lines. Indeed your solution is simple however it would do nothing to help those with long EO lines of which there are many, not just in rural locations but also in big cities such as London. Those with short EO lines can for the most part already get decent speeds (for now). It is with the longer EO lines that the problem lies.

Their should be a % number on each of the County local broadband projects for BDUK.

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Their should be a % number on each of the County local broadband projects for BDUK.

Which is, of course, of great help to those living in the shires and more rural parts of the country, however of no help for those of us living in the cities where BDUK is an irrelevance and for whom there is presently no comparable scheme.

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to me its simple but BT clearly feel in terms of commerical value there is less of a business case.

I think some of the EO lines may passed the commercial viability tests, but in they haven't hit high priorities in terms of action. There's still a year to go, and it wouldn't surprise me to see the PCP's going in this summer, and jointers working at all the new PCP connections during reasonale weather.

However, it looks like most do need some level of subsidy, so make it into BDUK projects where they exist. Devon+Somerset's project have explicitly set the order for their work, so that EO lines are dealt with after FTTC but before FTTP and the 2Mbps basic. I guess we should expect things to be another year or two there; it wouldn't surprise me if other BDUK projects equally de-prioritised EO lines too.

The simple solution is surely to stick a cabinet outside the front door of the exchange. Or rather 2 cabinets as the FTTC cabinet has to be near the voice cabinet. The only rerouting would be between the exchange and the cabinet.

That works for short lines.

Longer lines need dealing with in a cluster - and it probably depends on the number of lines together that determines whether a cabinet placed there is viable.

If there are too few lines to justify a whole new FTTC cabinet and PCP, the other option is FTTP. That'll be harder to justify on cost grounds.

Sorry, replied to the wrong post.

I honestly doubt anything will happen to EO lines in the next year, I think Openreach will try and address the issue after they have finished the FTTC roll out.

I never said all EO lines are short, obviously there would be long copper connected to the cbinet like there is in many other cabinets. But likewise there would also be short copper.

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I never said all EO lines are short, obviously there would be long copper connected to the cbinet like there is in many other cabinets. But likewise there would also be short copper.

In such cases your solution simply isn't a solution at all. Those with short EO lines can, for the most part, already get fairly respectable speed.