I think hes just trolling tbh.

I have always guessed he was some very young lad, just keen to be posting ......

When are you going to stop posting such utter rubbish? You've been on these forums long enough now to know the basics, yet you constantly post totally wrong information, utter rubbish!

People come on here looking for answers, they may find yours and take it as the truth, and then they go away misinformed!

Completely agree.

All this talk regarding cross talk: say one syncs at ~16Mbps on ADSL2+ then one moves to FTTC and all 288 lines eventually are in use; at a distance of ~250 metres from the cabinet would a one see significantly higher speeds, i.e. 32Mbps or more, than the previous ~16Mbps - in other words would it really be worthwhile moving to fibre except for the increased upstream speed?

But in your scenario, the only place where all 288 lines are in the same cable, is the copper tail between the DSLAM and the PCP, and even then that will be spread over three separate 100pr tails.

Thanks Zarjaz - I keep seeing a new cabinet at the end of the street and wonder just how satisfactory the speeds might be be once it's capacity is full

Have often wondered about pulling in 500 odd meters of cable between the cab and me, and then doing a before and after between the two pairs. Then I think, sod it, pull in BFT, blow my own fibre in and sit and wait .......................

It's just that I get an estimate of up to 68.2Mbps downstream and up to 20Mbps upstream for WBC FTTC from my cabinet, and it seems that with "cross talk" those "up to" figures could be significantly reduced.

I'm not particularly interested in vdsl myself at the moment (until I wish to stream video at 20Mbps or more!) but for a typical neighbour who have several machines tapped into the same line, requiring plenty of bandwidth, cross talk could be significant?

Our fttc estimated speed table in the fibre guide does take into account crosstalk

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Our fttc estimated speed table in the fibre guide does take into account crosstalk

Thanks - your estimate does appear to be less than the "up to" estimate taken from the https://www.btwholesale.com/includes/adsl/main.html checked based on the distance to the cabinet