It applies on your line, wrt to competing users at your house, and also at PlusNet's in-house routers wrt all traffic. It does not apply to your exchange that the chap down the road is connected to the same as yourself.

You have a very wrong thought in that post !

It doesn't slow anything if there is capacity for everything. What is does is make sure your TV/VOIP/Gaming or other time-critical stuff gets supplied, then lets the downloading have the rest. Conventional traffic management would speed-cap the download, possibly unnecessarily.

That was all explained in this article, remember? If they didn't do that, your son's downloading would be able to grab possibly hundreds of seeds and swamp your line. Your TV would stutter horribly.

The faster your line is the less likely it is that anything will need to slow. If you haven't got a problem on BT, you won't have a problem on PlusNet.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

It doesn't slow anything if there is capacity for everything. What is does is make sure your TV/VOIP/Gaming or other time-critical stuff gets supplied, then lets the downloading have the rest. Conventional traffic management would speed-cap the download, possibly unnecessarily.

But it makes assumptions that person A's traffic (a download) is less important than person B's traffic (watching iPlayer) and they both pay the same.

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But it makes assumptions that person A's traffic (a download) is less important than person B's traffic (watching iPlayer) and they both pay the same.

Not less important- just the end result in less affected by slow-downs.

A managed download will get there in the end, an unmanaged one can cause time-critical usage such as iPlayer (or Skype, gaming etc) to be unusable.

Edited by billford (Wed 30-Oct-13 20:34:29)

In reply to a post by billford:

Not less important- just the end result in less affected by slow-downs.

A managed download will get there in the end, an unmanaged one can cause time-critical usage such as iPlayer (or Skype, gaming etc) to be unusable.

Fine, charge them more, or charge the downloader less.

Or charge them all the same and don't differentiate. Which is why I'm not a PlusNet customer

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Fine, charge them more, or charge the downloader less.

If my ISP started charging me different rates for different types of traffic I wouldn't be a customer of theirs for very long!

Or charge them all the same and don't differentiate.

The ISPs that are prepared to invest in sufficient bandwidth do just that. It's the old story- you get what you pay for.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Or charge them all the same and don't differentiate. Which is why I'm not a PlusNet customer

Strange that we're beginning to get complaints about BT connections slowing down. Maybe all non-Sky heavy downloaders have gone there. Which on PlusNet wouldn't matter.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Or charge them all the same and don't differentiate. Which is why I'm not a PlusNet customer

Strange that we're beginning to get complaints about BT connections slowing down. Maybe all non-Sky heavy downloaders have gone there. Which on PlusNet wouldn't matter.

Maybe its more people being indoors now the clocks have changed, and just the 4.5million (or whatever it is) customers are straining the system Yeah, I'm not a fan of BT either once my contract is up

I have a feeling, nothing more, that Sky may be the one with the best performing network. BT and PlusNet next of the big/cheap ones, order unknown.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

I have a feeling, nothing more, that Sky may be the one with the best performing network. BT and PlusNet next of the big/cheap ones, order unknown.

For me the BT network works fine, I would just like the ability to have IPv6, and none of the networks with sufficient usage provide that at a sensible price. So my second option is to get one with a static IPv4 and then have a tunnel. That leaves out Sky/BT/TalkTalk and even Virgin Media as none of them offer static IP.

Well, after taking about as long as a world leader would to choose to make a nuclear strike I have pulled the plug on BT and chosen Plusnet as my next supplier. Thanks to all who help influence me in that direction. Tried to sign up online this morning but was unable to complete as it would not accept my MAC code. After checking with BT that my code was correct I contacted Plusnet CS. They too couldn't use my MAC code because its format included eight letters. I was advised to proceed with the switch over and to contact Plusnet tomorrow once the order was processed and my MAC could then be used? I agreed but only if he could assure me I would not end up with a discontinued / slammed line or inuring any fees for not producing a MAC code.

Edited by deleted (Thu 31-Oct-13 15:23:19)