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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 05-Dec-13 09:16:15
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When I changed to FTTC it cost me about £2 more, but with referral fees I'm now paying less.

A lot of people simply don't use the Internet to its full potential, so never need the speed.


I agree, like my next door neighbour who got FTTc and yet uses their computer once in the blue moon and got no other device connected to the connection. I still know of two households on dial up. one because they don't see the need to change and the other because ADSL where they are is worse than dial up. the one lot is changing next year to the same service I am with once they get it up and running in that area.

One of my brothers is now changing from the post office to EE ADSL, not FTTC, as the speed he gets with ADSL is fine for what he does. A mate of mine is also on ADSL with a small ISP on the cable and wireless network, he is a big games player and did think about FTTC, but he have got a good connection with 16Mb/s and he don't want to upset the apple cart.

I use my connection for netflix, it is my only form of video entertainments as I don't watch TV, so i am using my internet to it's full potential, but i still don't see the need to have speeds of 20Mb/s.
I expect there are lots of people who don't see the need for faster speeds if they get a pretty decent speed anyway, not everyone wants to watch video or do about ten things on the net at the same time.

My contract ends next year, but I am not ready to change unless the company gores belly up or if I move.

Adrian

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(deleted) Fri 06-Dec-13 01:34:33
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Then throw in the cost of the adverts re football, and the cost of buying the 'rights' for the football (that I am not the slightest bit interested in anyway). Then the letters I get once a week from BT with a 'special customer card' offering me cheap deals to sign-up to BT...

I am on FTTC now, but not with BT... so maybe they are losing money?

Nick
Standard User ian72
(knowledge is power) Fri 06-Dec-13 08:45:54
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Someone who can walk out of their gate and see the cabinet is getting 35Mb/s from plusnet, something is wrong there. BTOR have had a look and say it is fine and the connection is 60+, so if that is the case it must be Plusnet with their traffic shaping again.


Have they checked with Plusnet as it could be that they have been accidentally ordered on the 40/2 or 40/10 service?


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Standard User kasg
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 06-Dec-13 09:33:35
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Someone who can walk out of their gate and see the cabinet is getting 35Mb/s from plusnet, something is wrong there. BTOR have had a look and say it is fine and the connection is 60+, so if that is the case it must be Plusnet with their traffic shaping again.

Nonsense, Plusnet does not do any such "traffic shaping" - as ian72 says, they should check it with Plusnet, they will sort it out, probably on the wrong product or the wrong Plusnet profile.

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Standard User smouty
(regular) Fri 06-Dec-13 13:28:41
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I wouldn't be surprised if this was a wifi issue laugh
Standard User Spud2003
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 06-Dec-13 14:47:04
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I was previously on 2.5Mb/s unlimited I'm now on 74Mbit/s unlimited(59Mbit estimated by checker), it's costing about £3 extra per month. I'm not just getting extra speed I'm getting most of my connection to the exchange routed over fibre rather than copper. The less copper in my connection the better.

My usage has also changed a lot, I used to average 100GB/month I now average 200-300GB/month(not due to P2P or newsgroups but legal video streaming/downloads). The advantages for such a minimal increase in cost make FTTC a no brainer for me and many other people.
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 06-Dec-13 17:46:20
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Someone who can walk out of their gate and see the cabinet is getting 35Mb/s from plusnet, something is wrong there. BTOR have had a look and say it is fine and the connection is 60+, so if that is the case it must be Plusnet with their traffic shaping again.


Have they checked with Plusnet as it could be that they have been accidentally ordered on the 40/2 or 40/10 service?


Nope, because when he first had the service, it was fine, then it went downhill after a couple of weeks. Plusnet said he is on the right service, he ordered just before it went unlimited.

Adrian

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 06-Dec-13 17:49:23
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Nonsense, Plusnet does not do any such "traffic shaping" - as ian72 says, they should check it with Plusnet, they will sort it out, probably on the wrong product or the wrong Plusnet profile.


If plusnet don't traffic shape, then there is something very wrong with their service. plusnet and traffic management goes together, because they used to love doing that which is why when they took over Metronet i left right away.

Plusnet sort it out? well they have not yet, in fact my mate have given up and decided to leav it as it is as he still gets a faster service and cheaper than when he was with Mad as a fish.

Adrian

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 06-Dec-13 17:51:11
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I wouldn't be surprised if this was a wifi issue laugh



Then be surprised as it is not a wi-fi issue. I went directly to the router by ethernet and even directly to the modem, by passing that excuse of a router that Plusnet gives out. no difference.

Adrian

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 06-Dec-13 17:59:05
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I was previously on 2.5Mb/s unlimited I'm now on 74Mbit/s unlimited(59Mbit estimated by checker), it's costing about £3 extra per month. I'm not just getting extra speed I'm getting most of my connection to the exchange routed over fibre rather than copper. The less copper in my connection the better.

My usage has also changed a lot, I used to average 100GB/month I now average 200-300GB/month(not due to P2P or newsgroups but legal video streaming/downloads). The advantages for such a minimal increase in cost make FTTC a no brainer for me and many other people.


My usage have changed a bit over the last couple of years, only because I don't watch TV and most of my video viewing comes via Netflix. the reason why I updated to 10Mb/s from 5 is because of HD on Netflix, but I could go back to 5 if need be.

Even if I went for FTTC, i don't think it will change the way I am using the net at the moment. I know that if I went for FTTc I could get it a bit cheaper than what I am paying now including line rental as I don't have line rental as i am at the moment, but it means I would have to go with one of the larger ISPs with all the restrictions and filters and blocking and what other stuff they think I should or should not be doing.
so i will be staying as I am.

My brother on the other hand might find FTTC useful, but it would not be easy to persuade him to pay extra for it.


the one thing that is annoying me is people who think I need the high speed, which I don't, i am happy witht he service i have got even if it is not super fast, but considering what I had before it is like a jet fighter, well almost.

Adrian

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