It allows all sorts of things. Which as you say, doesn't mean it allows this.

I migrated with a MAC from SMPF LLU with BT/O2 to FTTC with BT/IDNet.

Edited by RobertoS (Fri 24-Jan-14 23:01:11)

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

that may be true but broadband is very cheap compared to other commodities, families often spend 4x as much on food a week as an example. Although if US speed isnt important and its a good adsl line syncing in the high teens its understandable, especially as adsl contracts can be had on a monthly basis.

Not cheap if you need the money for energy, food, and other stuff to live, you can get by without broadband, people have done for years and some people stlll do. even if they do have broadband not everyone needs the high speed that FTTC can give.

i have chatted to a few people over the last few months and some of them have dropped FTTC and gone back to ADSL.

I cant get by without broadband. wrong.

Since broadband is so cheap cost savings from fttc to adsl whilst not 0 are trivial, the weekly saving is less than the cost supermarkets charge for 1 meal.

Edited by Chrysalis (Sat 25-Jan-14 09:25:57)

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

I cant get by without broadband. wrong.

Unless you use broadband for work, then you can get by without it. May not be so convenient, but you can get by

I could get by without it, i would go back to normal TV, maybe or just not bother at all. I would pay my bills by post office or paypoint. i can still pay energy bills using direct debit, bank is still in town, so I can go there to sort things out, use cash machine to keep check on balance.

I would have to read normal books, not ebooks. i would not buy anything online, so that would be a bit of a pain.

so yes, I could live without broadband,

Since broadband is so cheap cost savings from fttc to adsl whilst not 0 are trivial, the weekly saving is less than the cost supermarkets charge for 1 meal.

But it is not trivial really, Talk Talk it is a extra £10 a month, sky is a extra £10 a month. Bt is about £7 a month extra,. but then Bt is expensive to start with. It may not seem a lot, but that tenner could put food on the table for another week or may get you to pay off that loan you may have a bit quicker.

Anyway, this is not so much about coping with or without broadband, while I agree that it is not as easy to live without it these days, this is about paying extra for a bit faster speed. for most every day things you can get along with a couple of Megabits per second. I know two households that are still on dial up.

Am I correct in saying an engineer visit will be required to take me off the fibre connection in the cabinet?

No engineer visit needed. The work is at the cabinet and exchange.

Has your cocoa kicked in Bob ?

Did you notice the time of the post ?

More likely the woolly nightcap warming my brain up .

Looks like it is Openreach that have no downgrade migration path, although they have an upgrade one. The only suggestion was ceasing FTTC then completely, not downgrading, then start afresh with the line transfer and adding ADSLx.

That means no broadband for a couple of weeks, but you are able to do what you want without getting into huge cancellation charges.

Thinks - No!!!!! A high chance your line would be re-contracted for 12 months at BT. It just happened to someone, because the line took over a week to be moved. However, I'm assuming you want to keep the same phone number. If not, it gets easier.

Not good .

There may be another way, but still involving loss of broadband for a week or so. How much do you download/upload per month, roughly?

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Looks like it is Openreach that have no downgrade migration path, although they have an upgrade one. The only suggestion was ceasing FTTC then completely, not downgrading, then start afresh with the line transfer and adding ADSLx.

That means no broadband for a couple of weeks, but you are able to do what you want without getting into huge cancellation charges.

Thinks - No!!!!! A high chance your line would be re-contracted for 12 months at BT. It just happened to someone, because the line took over a week to be moved. However, I'm assuming you want to keep the same phone number. If not, it gets easier.

Not good .

There may be another way, but still involving loss of broadband for a week or so. How much do you download/upload per month, roughly?

so once again we are back to the same naff system that people have and still suffers with full LLU, why can they do this right?

No doubt done to get more money of the public.

People thought I was crazy going to the system I have gone with,

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

There may be another way, but still involving loss of broadband for a week or so. How much do you download/upload per month, roughly?

Monthly download usage ranges from 4.5GB min to 28GB max with a 40GB monthly allowance from ISP, i would love to get into netfiix as theres so many films i have missed but the 40GB limit scuppered that idea and prefer HD to SD.

I guess the cost of FTTC is not that bad at £35 it's just when you get your bill for the month and it's above £60 yes the the remainder is due to phone call charges

New system should cover GEA-FTTC, but not GEA-FTTP just to confuse people.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/6216-ofcom-confir...

Alas still a long way from live, and suspect since its taken 2 plus years, it is why nothing much was done for going back to ADSL, i.e. had expected new system sooner.