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Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Mon 27-Jan-14 20:59:01
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Re: Downgrading from FTTC to ADSL


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So me being able to watch HD videos while sat on the end of my 20CN line is a figment of my imagination?

jelv

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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Mon 27-Jan-14 21:09:26
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Re: Downgrading from FTTC to ADSL


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I checked my traffic monitor on the asus firmware whilst netflix super hd 1080p was playing on the wii-u and it was needing around 10mbit throughput. So a good adsl2+ line should handle it but adsl1 I think would be downgraded in bitrate.

Edited by Chrysalis (Mon 27-Jan-14 21:10:22)

Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 27-Jan-14 22:48:37
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Re: Downgrading from FTTC to ADSL


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In reply to a post by jelv:
So me being able to watch HD videos while sat on the end of my 20CN line is a figment of my imagination?

Netflix can provide 1080p resolution with a data rate of around 4 to 5 Mbps, but with their "Super HD" which is significantly better quality (and requires an ISP with a local Netflix cache) you need 12 Mbps or more. Originally they claimed 7Mbps, but I've seen upto 12. Obviously anyone else in the house, or you want to check email, facebook etc, at the same time and you might want to have a connection at 15Mbps.

20CN has a highest data rate of 7.1 Mbps (BT profile limit) on a sync of 8128kbps. My office BT business line was synced at 8096 for about 4 years until we got upgraded to 21CN last year. (now syncs around 16Mbps).

http://ukirelandblog.netflix.com/2013/09/highest-qua...

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2013/09/headach...

https://support.netflix.com/en/node/8731

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14 years of broadband (ntl: cable to BT FTTC) - Router: Asus RT-N66U - Modem: Huawei HG612 speedtest

Edited by jchamier (Mon 27-Jan-14 22:49:33)


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 27-Jan-14 23:03:39
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Re: Downgrading from FTTC to ADSL


[re: Chrysalis] [link to this post]
 
A reality check is sometimes needed...

Is Super HD and HD video that important if you are doing things like bill watching?

The label SuperHD is dead with netflix, they have said it will just be HD and will scale according to the bandwidth available.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 27-Jan-14 23:07:53
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Re: Downgrading from FTTC to ADSL


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The label SuperHD is dead with netflix, they have said it will just be HD and will scale according to the bandwidth available.
Where have they said that?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 27-Jan-14 23:25:37
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Somewhere last week when I was reading about the 4K Netflix roll-out

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 28-Jan-14 00:40:54
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My previous idea doesn't look too good then. I'm stuck for now, unless you could get a cheap second line installation and get broadband on that, cancelling the BT ones once you had it up and going. That would mean a new phone number though - I asked about that before smile.

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Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Tue 28-Jan-14 09:23:55
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He said HD and you've confirmed that HD is fine on 20CN!

jelv

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Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Tue 28-Jan-14 09:25:51
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Swapping the original telephone number on to the new line as the last step would not be an issue. I've seen a case where this was done quite recently.

jelv

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 28-Jan-14 09:59:33
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Re: Downgrading from FTTC to ADSL


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Actually those complaining that ADSL will not be good enough for 4k are missing the simple fact that the codecs that are getting 4K down from many Gbps to just 14 to 15 Mbps, will also have an impact on HD feeds.

So higher quality HD may well be feasible at speeds of 4 to 5 Mbps again.

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The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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